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Re: [sig-policy] Requests from routing/packeting concerns
Thanks for sharing this Scott.
Nice to know there are similar needs in ARIN region.
Terry, I haven't replied to your thread directly, but yes, I agree about
taking a poll about this within the region.
izumi
Scott Leibrand wrote:
> Izumi,
>
> For what it's worth, ARIN has accepted and is adopting a suggestion to
> add a "whowas" service:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2008-15.html
>
> Right now it's a manual process via e-mail to hostmaster@arin.net.
> Sometime this year they plan to make it into a system you can query
> online, like whois.
>
> So I don't think this is a need that's limited to Japan.
>
> -Scott
>
> Izumi Okutani wrote:
>> Paul,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the response from APNIC.
>>
>> I understand this is something that requires some considerations and
>> change in the way APNIC provides data to the community.
>>
>> It's difficult for me to see if the needs are specific to Japan or can
>> be commonly share as the region, so I'd be interested to hear what the
>> others say in Manila too.
>>
>>
>> izumi
>>
>> Paul Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Izumi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the questions and comments.
>>>
>>>
>>>> --On 17 February 2009 1:52:35 PM +0900 Izumi Okutani <izumi@nic.ad.jp>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Randy Bush wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi again okutani-san,
>>>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>>> thanks for this too.
>>>> I'll share it on JANOG ML, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Could APNIC also consider providing public record of past resource
>>>> holders?
>>>>
>>> APNIC does retain a full transaction log of registry and whois
>>> updates, though this is not publicly accessible at the moment, nor is
>>> there an available query mechanism.
>>>
>>> If the membership or wider community concludes that this service
>>> should be provided, then of course we would be able to develop and
>>> deploy it. I would expect that the appropriate mechanism would be
>>> through an extension to the current whois service (affecting both the
>>> database and query facilities), however that may be open to some
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested to hear any feedback or discussion during the
>>> meeting next week in Manila. Even without a policy proposal, I think
>>> an informal poll of the meeting would provide useful guidance for
>>> action.
>>>
>>> I look forward to seeing you there.
>>>
>>> Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> This was requested to help in consideration to purchase space (make
>>>> sure
>>>> it's not been used by black-listed ISPs), and to help in sorting out
>>>> filtering problems (explain to peers/upstream).
>>>>
>>>> The general feeling was that you have to do the actual testing + be
>>>> responsible yourself at the end of the day, but information about past
>>>> holders would still help.
>>>>
>>>> Would this be something other operators in the region also find it
>>>> useful?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> izumi
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