[sig-policy] Fwd: [Sig-policy-chair] prop-107 final 8 week comment perio

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      prop-107 AS number transfer policy proposal, reached consensus at the
      APNIC 36 Policy SIG and later at the APNIC Member Meeting.
      
      This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC Policy
      Development Process and is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list
      for the final 8-week comment period.
      
      At the end of this period the Policy SIG Chairs will evaluate comments
      made and determine if the consensus reached at APNIC 36 still holds.
      
      If consensus holds, the Chairs of the Policy SIG will ask the Executive
      Council to endorse the proposal for implementation.
      
         - Send all comments and questions to: <sig-policy at apnic dot net>
         - Deadline for comments:  24:00 (UTC+10) Wednesday, 6 November 2013
      
      
      
      Proposal details
      ----------------
      
      This policy would permit the transfer of Autonomous System Numbers
      (ASNs) within the APNIC region and between regions with compatible
      inter-regional ASN transfer policies.
      
      Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and
      links to the APNIC 36 meeting archive, are available at:
      
               http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-107
      
      Regards
      
      Andy and Masato
      
      
      
      
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      prop-107-v001: AS number transfer policy proposal
      
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      Author: Tomohiro Fujisaki <fujisaki at syce dot net>
      
      
      1. Problem statement
      --------------------
      
      In the APNIC region, IPv4 transfer policy has been implemented since
      February 2010.
      
      On the other hand, there is no transfer policy for AS numbers, while
      some demands for transfers of AS numbers between AS number holders are
      have been observed through individual feedback to the proposal author.
      
      - There are a few requests to transfer the AS number with IPv4 address
        at the same time. However, currently, AS numbers are not able
        transfer under the transfer policy and only under M&A.
      
      - Currently, there is no policy for transfers of AS numbers between
        RIRs. M&A policy allows transfers of AS number only within the same
        RIR region. However, there are expected to be some cases where
        organizations wish to transfer both IPv4 address and AS number at the
        same time to an LIR in other RIR region.
      
      - AS number is also limited resource, and it is meaningful to promote
        efficient use with transfer policy.
      
      
      2. Objective of policy change
      -----------------------------
      The objective of this proposal is to allow transfer of AS numbers
      between organizations in the APNIC region, as well as with members of
      other RIRs, if a counterpart RIR has adopted an equivalent transfer
      policy for AS numbers.
      
      
      3. Situation in other regions
      -----------------------------
      
      Intra-region transfer policy:
      
      ARIN:
      There is a AS number transfer policy in the ARIN region.
      
      No other RIRs implement AS number transfer policy.
      
      Inter-RIR transfer policy:
      
      ARIN:
      There was a Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-1 which allows Inter-RIR
      ASN transfers, but it was abandoned by ARIN AC in June 2013.
      (see https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2013_1.html)
      
      ARIN AC said the reason as follows in their statements; (see
      http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2013-July/027028.html)
      "Based on the feedback received at the ARIN 31 Public Policy Meeting,
      and at the Public Policy Consultation at NANOG 58, the ARIN AC voted
      to abandon ARIN-2013-1 "Section 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers of ASNs".  The
      feedback from the community indicated that many people felt the policy
      was unnecessary as it would have no effect until/unless another RIR
      expresses interest in allowing Inter-RIR ASN transfers as well.
      
      
      4. Proposed policy solution
      ----------------------------
      AS numbers may be transferred if recipient of the transfer will meets
      the criteria under the current APNIC policy for an assignment of AS
      numbers.
      
      Inter-regional AS number transfers may take place only via RIRs who
      agree to the transfer and share reciprocal, compatible, needs-based
      policies.
      
      
      5. Explain the advantages of the proposal
      -----------------------------------------
      Just like IPv4 addresses, AS numbers are finite resource. This proposal
      promotes efficient use of AS numbers by allowing transfers of AS
      numbers, which is no longer needed by the existing holders.
      
      
      6. Explain the disadvantages of the proposal
      --------------------------------------------
      No disadvantages.
      
      
      7. Impact on resource holders
      -----------------------------
      NIRs are able to choose whether or not to implement this policy.
      
      
      8. References (if required)
      ---------------------------
      
      ARIN's AS number transfer policy:
      https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight3