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Re: [sig-policy] Prop-050 concerns from RIPE

Sam and all,

Very helpful thanks..
So if the consensus is maintained with Prop-050 may I respectfully recommend the EC and Secretariat to keep to a 6 month (or longer) implementation time to allow the machine to churn through Prop-071/072 and meet up with prop-050 at implementation if possible.
I accept this appears as a slippery slope. And if prop-050 needs such a crutch then maybe policy itself is immature, needs work and we as a community might consider to not maintain the consensus call. 

Terry

On 16/04/2009, at 12:07 PM, Sam Dickinson wrote:


Hello Terry
You are correct in remembering that the Secretariat had posted to this list that if a proposal like prop-050 were to become policy, it would take six months after EC to implement it. As stated in that earlier post, that timeline could change a little once we create a detailed implementation plan. Implementation usually takes around 3 months, but can happen sooner or later, depending on the complexities of implementation. We have had policies implemented within days of EC endorsement (for example, prop-041) and policies that have taken as long as 11 months to implement (for example, prop-007). 

I hope that helps.

Regards
Sam

On 16/4/09 10:10 AM, Terry Manderson wrote:
Before I make any comments regarding the potential for a "gap" in regulation (and people capitalising on it) between the implementation of Prop-050 and the possible implementation of Prop-071/072 (assuming consensus) perhaps we might consider the timelines for the secretariat to implement and enact the policies. From what I recall APNIC said it would take 6 months to implement Prop-50 after EC endorsement. I'm guessing that since Prop-071/072 are modifications to Prop-50 in re-application/allocation times (in essence) I would think that if consensus for them was reached at APNIC28, they could be implemented immediately after EC endorsement. So my presumption is that due to the 6 months implementation time of Prop-50. Prop071 and 072 could be implemented at the same time. (*) (*) Yes, this means that prop071/072 are in a win/loss state - if they don't reach consensus at APNIC28 they are pretty well done for. APNIC secretariat, can you please clarify if my reading of the timelines is correct and provide the exact dates when items fall due? 
Cheers
Terry
On 16/04/2009, at 8:43 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:

FWIW, I share these concerns.

-Scott

On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
As co-chair of the RIPE Address Policy Working Group I would like 
to
express our concern about prop-050.
this is an official statement of the ripe address policy wg? this 
was
discussed on the wg's mailing list and consensus was reached?
Sorry for the confusion. No, this was not discussed on the RIPE APWG 
mailing list. This is just the APWG chairs having some concerns :)

so, it is actually the comment one non-apnic person.  thank you for
your
input.

randy
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