Re: [sig-nir] Re: VNNIC's Position about IPv6 Fee Abolishing Proposal
This is David Chen from TWNIC. May I have a question about the discount
rule?
My question is, if one existing IPv6 initial allocation space holder
wants to implement the prop-021-v001 policy to expand IPv6 allocation
space which is more than /32, can the subsequent allocation address
space be applied the 90% discount by using their IPv4 infrastructure?
Could you please clarify this for us, thank you very much!
Best Regards,
David
Izumi Okutani wrote:
>Thank you for the explanation Paul.
>Any comments or questions on this?
>
>Izumi
>
>Paul Wilson wrote:
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>>Dear all,
>>
>>Firstly, let's be clear that the discount applies to fees for the
>>allocation of IPv6 address space to existing IPv4 infrastructure. It
>>does not apply to allocations of IPv6 space to new networks, nor to
>>subsequent allocations of IPv6 space to networks that have already
>>transitioned to IPv6. I hope that this is clear in all documentation
>>related to this policy, including the revised fee structure that was
>>recently published.
>>
>>The rationale for this discount is that the allocation of IPv6 to
>>existing IPv4 infrastructure is intended to be a lightweight process,
>>relying on the fact that the network infrastructure has already been
>>assessed and IPv4 address space allocated. In other words the "work"
>>has been done already in the previous IPv4 application, and it is not
>>justified to charge the same fees for an allocation of (IPv6) addresses
>>to that same infrastructure.
>>
>>The APNIC EC did initially discuss a 100% fee discount for these cases,
>>but felt on consideration that since some administrative activities are
>>involved in making these allocations, some fee payment is justified.
>>
>>I hope that this explanation helps, but please let me know if any other
>>issues are not clear.
>>
>>Best regards, and I look forward to seeing you all in Hanoi,
>>
>>Paul.
>>
>>--On Wednesday, 20 July 2005 2:13 PM +0900 Izumi Okutani
>><izumi at nic dot ad dot jp> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thanks to NIRs for expressing your comments. I think we should keep this
>>>proposal("prop-028-v001:Abolishing IPv6 per address fee for NIRs")
>>>active as most NIRs wish to continue discussions on this issue.
>>>
>>>Now that APNIC has implemented the 90% discount on the per address fee,
>>>I believe the situation has changed since it was initially proposed.
>>>Just to start off the discussions, I would like to ask some questions to
>>>both NIRs and APNIC.
>>>
>>>It seems that 90% is almost as good as free, so would someone from the
>>>NIRs share with us why you wish the per address fee to be totally
>>>abolished instead of the discount?
>>>
>>>I'd also like to ask the reverse question to APNIC. Was there any reason
>>>why APNIC has made the decision to provide the discount instead of
>>>totally abolishing the fee as proposed by the NIRs? It would also be
>>>helpful if APNIC could explain the logic behind the fee change so that
>>>we can compare it with what has been proposed by the NIRs.
>>>
>>>Any other imputs from non-NIRs/APNIC are also very welcome. Any thoughts
>>>on the APNIC fee change or NIR proposal?
>>>
>>>
>>>Izumi
>>>
>>>Phan Thi Nhung wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dear Billy,
>>>>I'm sorry for the delay answer. After talking within VNNIC Hostmaster
>>>>Team, we agree to keep this proposal active and discuss at the NIR SIG
>>>>at the APNIC 20. See you all in Ha Noi.
>>>>Regards.
>>>>Nhung.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>________________________________________________________________________
>>Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg at apnic dot net>
>>http://www.apnic.net ph/fx +61 7 3858 3100/99
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>>See you at APNIC 20! Hanoi, Vietnam, 6-9 Sep 2005
>> http://www.apnic.net/meetings
>>
>>
>>
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