Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

[Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>]

Assigned address space isn’t generally delegated to LIRs,… It’s generally delegated to end-users. Address space delegated to LIRs may then be reassigned by the LIR to itself for internal purposes.

Unless there’s a case where an LIR is receiving an assignment instead of an allocation, I think we can limit it to space that is delegated to an end-user by the RIR.

Owen

On Feb 20, 2020, at 20:20 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:

Thanks Bertrand,

I’m fine as well with this option. Repeating it here:

"Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or end-user, for specific, documented purposes and exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate and may not be sub-assigned".

Could the secretariat let us know if they still believe there is any text that is "unnecessarily duplicated" or if they could live with that?

Note that it seems that emails using DMARC still get wrong to the mailing list. It will be very important that the secretariat resolves that, otherwise, some participants are not getting emails from some of us (including me). So, no wonder that they don’t respond!

Regards,
Jordi
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El 21/2/20 15:14, "Bertrand Cherrier" <mailto:sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net en nombre de mailto:b.cherrier@micrologic.nc> escribió:

Hello everyone,
Thank you Jordi for this revised prop.
How about this :

Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or end-user, for specific, documented purposes and exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate and may not be sub-assigned.

It would be nice to have inputs from other members of the Policy SIG, especially from those who opposed this proposal.
Regards,
Cordialement,

Bertrand Cherrier
Administration Systèmes - R&D
Micro Logic Systems
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On 21 Feb 2020, at 11:09, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
Hi all,

As you know, we have decided to continue the discussion of this proposal in the mailing list.

I've been thinking in a possible way to keep the "documented purposes" text as some indicated in the mike.

So, what do you feel about these two choices:

Option a)
2.2.3. Assigned address space
Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or end-user, for specific, documented purposes and exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate.

Option b)
2.2.3. Assigned address space
Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or end-user, for specific, documented purposes and exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate and may not be sub-assigned to other networks.

My personal preference, and following the staff analysis in v2, will be option a, but just in case the community prefers to re-state "and may not be sub-assigned to other networks" (I believe, and also according to the staff inputs that "exclusive" is already indicating it).

Just as a reminder, the actual proposal (v2) is at:
https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/prop-133-v002.txt

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet





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