Re: [sig-policy] prop-133-v001: Secretariat impact assessment

  • To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>, mailman_SIG-policy <sig-policy@apnic.net>
  • Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-133-v001: Secretariat impact assessment
  • From: Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 06:51:58 +0000
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    • Hi Jordi,
      
      Thanks for the new version. SIG Chairs will soon post version 2 of this 
      proposal to the mailing list for community discussion.
      
      Regards
      Sunny
      
      On 16/02/2020 12:24 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
      > Hi Sunny, all,
      > 
      > I agree that we can improve this removing the redundant text (as I've added "exclusive" it is now clearly duplicating the meaning).
      > 
      > So, I think we should make a new version using this "shortened" text:
      > 
      > Actual:
      > 
      > 2.2.3. Assigned address space
      > Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
      > end-user, for exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate, and may
      > not be sub-assigned to other networks.
      > 
      > New version:
      > 
      > 2.2.3. Assigned address space
      > Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
      > end-user, for exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate.
      > 
      > Please, update the version number of this proposal with this change, which I guess it clears your impact assesment as well.
      > 
      > Regards,
      > Jordi
      > @jordipalet
      >   
      >   
      > 
      > El 14/2/20 14:48, "Srinivas Chendi" <sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net en nombre de sunny@apnic.net> escribió:
      > 
      >      Dear SIG members,
      >      
      >      Here is the Secretariat impact assessment for proposal “prop-133-v001:
      >      Clarification on Sub-Assignments” and the same is also published at:
      >      
      >           https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-133/
      >      
      >      Staff comments
      >      --------------
      >      
      >      This proposal appears to be straightforward. APNIC notes the expansion
      >      policy text to elaborate on IPv6 assignment, and it is unlikely to
      >      change current practices for evaluating IPv6 requests.
      >      
      >      The proposed text “and may not be sub-assigned to other networks.” is
      >      redundant as assigned address space cannot be sub-assigned to other
      >      networks.
      >      
      >      
      >      Technical comments
      >      ------------------
      >      
      >      No comments.
      >      
      >      
      >      Legal comments
      >      --------------
      >      
      >      No comments.
      >      
      >      
      >      Implementation
      >      --------------
      >      
      >      within 3 months.
      >      
      >      
      >      Regards
      >      Sunny
      >      
      >      
      >      On 20/01/2020 10:18 am, Bertrand Cherrier wrote:
      >      > Dear SIG members
      >      >
      >      > The proposal "prop-133-v001: Clarification on Sub-Assignments" has been
      >      > sent to the Policy SIG for review.
      >      >
      >      > (This is a new version of "prop-124" proposal abandoned after APNIC 48
      >      > as it did not reach consensus at APNIC 46, APNIC 47, and APNIC 48.)
      >      >
      >      > It will be presented during the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 49 in
      >      > Melbourne, Australia on Thursday, 20 February 2020.
      >      >
      >      > We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
      >      > before the meeting.
      >      >
      >      > The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
      >      > important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
      >      > express your views on the proposal:
      >      >
      >      >   * Do you support or oppose this proposal?
      >      >   * Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, tell
      >      >     the community about your situation.
      >      >   * Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
      >      >   * Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
      >      >   * What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
      >      >
      >      > Information about this proposal is available at:
      >      > http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-133
      >      >
      >      > Regards
      >      >
      >      > Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
      >      > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
      >      >
      >      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >      >
      >      > prop-133-v001: Clarification on Sub-Assignments
      >      >
      >      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >      >
      >      > Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez
      >      > jordi.palet@theipv6company.com <mailto:jordi.palet@theipv6company.com>
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     1. Problem statement
      >      >
      >      > Note that this proposal is ONLY relevant when end-users obtain direct
      >      > assignments from APNIC, or when a LIR obtains, also from APNIC, and
      >      > assignment
      >      > for exclusive use within its infrastructure.
      >      > Consequently, this is NOT relevant in case of LIR allocations.
      >      >
      >      > The intended goal of assignments is for usage by end-users or LIRs in
      >      > their own infrastructure (servers, equipment, interconnections, employees,
      >      > guest devices, subcontractors, only within that infrastructure),
      >      > not for sub-assignment in other networks.
      >      >
      >      > The current text uses a “must” together with “documented purposes”. As a
      >      > consequence, if there is a request with a documented purpose, and in the
      >      > future the assigned space is used for some other purposes, it will
      >      > violate the policy.
      >      >
      >      > For example, a university may document in the request, that the assigned
      >      > addressing space will be used for their own network devices and serves, but
      >      > afterwards they also sub-assign to the students in the campus
      >      > (still same infrastructure). This last purpose was not documented, so it
      >      > will fall out of the policy.
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     2. Objective of policy change
      >      >
      >      > Clarification of the text, by rewording it.
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     3. Situation in other regions
      >      >
      >      > This situation, has already been corrected in AFRINIC, ARIN, LACNIC and
      >      > RIPE.
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     4. Proposed policy solution
      >      >
      >      > Actual text:
      >      > 2.2.3. Assigned address space
      >      > Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
      >      > end-user, for specific use within the Internet infrastructure they operate.
      >      > Assignments must only be made for specific, documented purposes and may not
      >      > be sub-assigned.
      >      >
      >      > Proposed text:
      >      > 2.2.3. Assigned address space
      >      > Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
      >      > end-user, for exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate, and may
      >      > not be sub-assigned to other networks.
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     5. Advantages / Disadvantages
      >      >
      >      > Advantages:
      >      > Advantages of the proposal:
      >      > Fulfilling the objective above indicated and making sure to match the
      >      > real situation in the market.
      >      >
      >      > Disadvantages:
      >      > Disadvantages of the proposal:
      >      > None foreseen.
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     6. Impact on resource holders
      >      >
      >      > Impact on resource holders:
      >      > None.
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     7. References
      >      >
      >      > AFRINIC: https://www.afrinic.net/policy/2018-v6-002-d3#details
      >      >
      >      > ARIN:
      >      > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#2-5-allocation-assignment-reallocation-reassignment
      >      > and https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_15/
      >      >
      >      > LACNIC:
      >      > https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2018-7?language=en
      >      >
      >      > RIPE NCC: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2016-04
      >      >
      >      > Cordialement,
      >      >
      >      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >      >
      >      > Bertrand Cherrier
      >      > Micro Logic Systems
      >      > https://www.mls.nc
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