Anyone can very quickly put just about anything in RADB if they want to. It’s also relatively easy to put nearly anything in the current ARIN IRR (not to be confused with the ARIN RIR database). There are also some other IRRs that accept almost anything at face value.
Finally, route object based filters tend to get updated rather slowly and not everyone updates in sync, so it’s a gradually progressing outage that allows some reaction time before becoming completely catastrophic.
OTOH, if APNIC accidentally deletes the registration and issues an AS0 ROA for the entire netback, then you’re (potentially) talking about near total catastrophic routing failure for this ISP and all of his customers.Let’s assume they accidentally delete the registration for any reason there are cooling off periods in place which goes up to 60 days or we can put measures in place through policy to have decent cooking off periods. Also let’s talk about stats, how many times how many RIRs have deleted their members by mistake? Do you have any case?Honestly, I have no way to know. Such an event would likely not be made particularly public. The RIR would consider it confidential to the affected party and the affected party would have little motivation to announce it to the world after the fact.
So I am not in favor of asking the RIR to create AS0 ROA.Thats absolutely fine we can agree to disagree but let’s have a clear understanding of the policy.What makes you think he does not understand the policy?Because the policy only addresses the bogon, how an address space becomes a bogon is APNIC operating procedure. Do you see the problem of understanding here?Yes, but it’s not his. The policy creates new more severe consequences for things moving “routable” -> “bogon”. When you increase the consequences of an action, it’s often a good idea to review the potential causes of that action and consider what avenues exist for erroneous triggers.
Also it’s seems you are fine with people advertising bogons just because fixing it might make one/two people unhappy.I’m not necessarily fine with people advertising bogons, but I’m also not necessarily convinced that I want the RIRs to become the routing police.This proposal literally moves the routing police role from the hands of those who run routers into the hands of the RIRs (well, specifically it moves part of that role in one region into the hands of one RIR).