Hi Yu-ya,
Thank you so much for your comment.
Mike also mentioned about M&A in his first mail (thank you, Mike),
I'll revise my proposal to consider that.
Yours Sincerely,
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Tomohiro Fujisaki
2016-09-21 9:28 GMT+09:00 Yuya KAWAKAMI <kawakami at mfeed dot ad dot jp>:
> I'd like to support the purpose of this proposal itself but I'm afraid that
> anyone who want to obtain more IPv4 addresses seriously will try to do M&A,
> as Mike mentioned. I wonder if there can be better way to prevent such kind
> of transfer.
>
> Paul and George,
> Thank you for providing helpful statistics!
>
> Regards,
> Yuya
>
> On 2016/09/21 05:11, Masato Yamanishi wrote:
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Regardding this prop-116, I have not yet seen any support, opposition, or
>> comment, except one clarification made by Mike Jager.
>> So, let me ask you to express your views for this proposal on the list
>> more since the meeting is reaching within 2 weeks.
>>
>> Mike> Can you advise your opinion for prop-116 after seeing the number of
>> tranfers in 103/8 by market and M&A?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-08 15:53 GMT+09:00 George Kuo <george at apnic dot net
>> <mailto:george at apnic dot net>>:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>>
>> On 7/09/2016 8:09 AM, Mike Jager wrote:
>>
>> This proposal does not prohibit transfers due to M&A.
>> Transfers of 103/8
>>
>> block due to M&A continues to be allowed, based on the M&A
>> transfer
>>
>> procedures.
>>
>>
>> I had always assumed that anyone trying to get more than one
>> allocation of 103/8 was creating a separate entity, obtaining APNIC
>> membership, receiving the 103/8 allocation, and then using the M&A process
>> to transfer it to their original entity.
>>
>> If this is the case, the proposal will be ineffective at stopping
>> this.
>>
>> Does APNIC have any information on the relative number of
>> transfers within 103/8 that have happened as part of M&As?
>>
>>
>> I have included two tables here for your reference. The numbers for
>> Market transfers are available as part of the public transfer logs.
>> (ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/
>> <ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/ >)
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) M&A transfers containing 103/8 space
>>
>> +------+-----------+-----------+-
>> | | Total | Number of |
>> | Year | Transfers | /24s |
>> +------+-----------+-----------+-
>> | 2011 | 3 | 12 |
>> | 2012 | 10 | 46 |
>> | 2013 | 18 | 66 |
>> | 2014 | 126 | 498 |
>> | 2015 | 147 | 573 |
>> | 2016 | 45 | 177 |
>> +------+-----------+------------+-
>>
>> 2) Market transfers containing 103/8 space
>>
>> +------+-----------+-----------+
>> | | Total | Number of |
>> | Year | Transfers | /24s |
>> +------+-----------+-----------+
>> | 2011 | 2 | 2 |
>> | 2012 | 21 | 68 |
>> | 2013 | 16 | 61 |
>> | 2014 | 25 | 95 |
>> | 2015 | 67 | 266 |
>> | 2016 | 56 | 206 |
>> +------+-----------+-----------+
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> -Mike
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