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Lu, as I stated elsewhere, I did read your post, but I do not trust you.OwenOn Dec 6, 2015, at 01:13 , h.lu at anytimechinese dot com wrote:I have explained the reasoning of asking it fairly well in one of the list and Owen just didn't read it and speculate my action, fair warning, read to Owen, do not speculate people's action on public space without ground.l, especially such action was already explained publicly.Fair warning, Lu asked the identical question on the ARIN list and (I presume the RIPE list since he left RIPE in allthe key places in the one he posted to ARIN).It seems to me that he may be doing some form of registry policy shopping.OwenOn Dec 4, 2015, at 06:07 , Skeeve Stevens <skeeve at v4now dot com> wrote:Hi Lu,1st: I would say no. There are no followups after allocation and there should not be due to the many complication issues that can happen.2nd: I would say no. The changing of network infrastructure should NOT invalidate the original request which is approved.* sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy *
...SkeeveSkeeve Stevens - Senior IP Brokerv4Now - an eintellego Networks serviceskeeve at v4now dot com ; www.v4now.comPhone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeveIP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyersOn Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese dot com> wrote:HiI have an policy question regarding the "need".We all know when RIR makes approves assignment LIR made if it is beyond LIR's assignment window, while the "need" has changed, the assignment become invalid.The question come to what the definition of need, as a young people here, I am a bit confused, Below I have few examples, please enlighten me if anyone has an thought about it.First one:Company A provides 100 customer dedicated server service at location A, RIR makes an assignment for 100 IP for his infrastructure, if, under condition that no other factor was changed, Company A moved his infrastructure to location B, but still providing same service to same customer, does the company's action need to be notified to RIR? And does this action considered invalid the original assignment?Second one:Company A provides web hosting service, but any casted in 3 location, and has provided the evidence of 3 location to the RIR during the time the company getting valid assignment, then A decided to cut 3 location to 2 location, does this invalid original assignment and need to be notified to RIR?So the bottom line is, what is the definition of need, is it defined as the service you are providing or defined as whole package of any of original justification material was provided, if was the later, then does it imply that anything, including location of the infrastructure, upstream providers etc has changed due to operational need, it will be considered as change of purpose of use and need to be notified to RIR?What should be the right interpretation of the policy by then?----
Kind regards.
Lu
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