That was bad planning :(. I was thinking of doing a lightening, but policy is more important....Skeeve
On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Dean Pemberton <dean at internetnz dot net dot nz> wrote:We have the first policy sig session on at the same time as the Lightning talks on Thursday.It will be interesting to see which attracts more operators.
On Saturday, 28 February 2015, Jessica Shen <shenzhi at cnnic dot cn> wrote:Owen,
What do you mean by 'If it’s _THE_ track at that time'?
Jessica Shen
> -----原始邮件-----
> 发件人: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong dot com>
> 发送时间: 2015-02-28 05:33:59 (星期六)
> 收件人: "Shen Zhi" <shenzhi at cnnic dot cn>
> 抄送: "Mark Tinka" <mark.tinka at seacom dot mu>, sig-policy at lists dot apnic dot net
> 主题: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 2015, at 22:16 , Shen Zhi <shenzhi at cnnic dot cn> wrote:
> >
> > Good point, getting greater operator participation in the policy processes is
> > important. APRICOT and APNIC having joint meeting is one of the good
> > ways to bring more operators to APNIC policy discussion. I noticed on the
> > Policy SIG session @APNIC 39, there will be some short background instroductions
> > by APNIC staff (could be someone from the community who is familiar with the
> > policy history in future) before the proposal discussion, I think it's a very good
> > way to faciliate the new comers to understand and join the discussion.
> >
> > I'm thinking if we set part of or whole Policy SIG session on the same days
> > when APRICOT or APCERT sessions are running, say Tuesday, or Wednesday, will
> > it help that more operators attend the policy discussions?
>
> That depends. If it’s a parallel track to something operators would consider more interesting,
> then probably not.
>
> If it’s _THE_ track at that time, then it might work, or, it might turn into shopping time, etc.
>
> As near as I can tell, the problem is less one of accessibility than interest.
>
> Owen
>
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jessica Shen
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> 发件人: sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net
> >> [mailto:sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net] 代表 Owen DeLong
> >> 发送时间: 2015年2月27日 4:42
> >> 收件人: Mark Tinka
> >> 抄送: sig-policy at lists dot apnic dot net
> >> 主题: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the
> >> ASN eligibility criteria
> >>
> >> In theory, this is why each RIR has a public policy process open to any who
> >> choose to participate.
> >>
> >> The fact that operator participation in the process is limited (voluntarily by
> >> the operators themselves) continues to cause problems for operators. This
> >> not only affects RIRs, but also the IETF, ICANN, and other multi-stakeholder
> >> fora covering various aspects of internet governance and development.
> >>
> >> If you have a suggestion for getting greater operator participation in these
> >> processes, I’m all ears.
> >>
> >> Owen
> >>
> >>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom dot mu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> While I tend to agree that the current draft policy in its form needs
> >>> more work, I empathize with the long-held concern of detachment
> >>> between the RIR and network operations. This is a well-documented
> >>> issue that affects several other policies within various RIR
> >>> communities, and not just this one nor APNIC. Take assigned prefix
> >>> length and what operators filter against as an example.
> >>>
> >>> Globally, perhaps we would do well to find way to make RIR operations
> >>> and policy design reflect the practical day-to-day changes taking
> >>> place within operator networks, or at the very least, make a provision
> >>> for them that sufficiently covers what the future may throw up.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think any of us have the answers now, but it starts from
> >> somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> Mark.
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