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Skeeve,
First of all, there’s probably going to be a lot of this:
In a previous life, I obtained on behalf of my then employer three adjacent “Class C” (and no, they weren’t “/24”s in those days!) address blocks. And we later inherited at least two more non-adjacent blocks from mergers with other companies. I know that only about three or four individual IP addresses of all these allocations are visible on the Internet, and that the organisation quickly moved to RFC1918 private addresses internally, so the legacy blocks are all just about completely unused. Suddenly, their legacy space may be worth actual money. This company is not and never has been an APNIC member. I’m sure there are lots of other stories like mine.
Secondly, I believe that pragmatism ought to, in this matter, rule over principle:
So, we should not say that the vendor must become an APNIC member to reap the benefit of their ‘found money’, because by and large they won’t bother, thus pushing the transfers underground.
I would say that the buyer / first intermediary must register the ‘new’ block of IP addresses with (in this case) APNIC, so that it moves out of ‘legacy’ space into ‘regular’ address space, then becomes subject to the existing regulatory framework. I may be banging a familiar drum here, but I don’t think there should be any requirement to demonstrate ‘need’ for the purchaser to be allowed to register a legacy block: in my view the readiness to pony up some cash demonstrates sufficient ‘need’.
The difficult practical / legal issue may be: how does the vendor demonstrate that a particular block of legacy space is in fact theirs to sell, particularly if it’s never been visible on the Internet?
Regards
Mike
Note: The views expressed are my personal opinion and may not represent the position (if any) of my employer
From: sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net [mailto:sig-policy-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 11:08 a.m.
To: apnic-talk at apnic dot net; sig-policy at apnic dot net SIG List
Subject: [sig-policy] Policy Regarding Transfers of Legacy Space
Hi All,
I've been contacted by a holder of some small (not relevant) legacy space who was inquiring about selling it.
But, they are not an APNIC member (or a Non-Member).
Referring to: http://www.apnic.net/publications/media-library/documents/membership/non-member-fees#Historical under 1.4, it talks about receiving transfers, but not making transfers.
Any thoughts?
...Skeeve
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