Re: [sig-policy] prop-107-v001: AS number transfer policy proposal
requests for AS number transfers they have received?
Both in terms of transfers between APNIC members, as well as from other RIRs.
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Andy Linton <asjl at lpnz dot org> wrote:
> Dear SIG members
>
> The proposal "prop-107-v001: AS number transfer policy proposal"
> has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be presented at the
> Policy SIG at APNIC 36 in Xi'an, China, on Thursday, 29 August 2013.
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
> before the meeting.
>
> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
> express your views on the proposal:
>
> - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
> - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
> tell the community about your situation.
> - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
> - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
> - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
> effective?
>
>
> Information about this and other policy proposals is available from:
>
> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/107
>
> Andy, Masato
>
>
>
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>
> prop-107-v001: AS number transfer policy proposal
>
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>
> Author: Tomohiro Fujisaki <fujisaki at syce dot net>
>
>
> 1. Problem statement
> --------------------
>
> In the APNIC region, IPv4 transfer policy has been implemented since
> February 2010.
>
> On the other hand, there is no transfer policy for AS numbers, while
> some demands for transfers of AS numbers between AS number holders are
> have been observed through individual feedback to the proposal author.
>
> - There are a few requests to transfer the AS number with IPv4 address
> at the same time. However, currently, AS numbers are not able
> transfer under the transfer policy and only under M&A.
>
> - Currently, there is no policy for transfers of AS numbers between
> RIRs. M&A policy allows transfers of AS number only within the same
> RIR region. However, there are expected to be some cases where
> organizations wish to transfer both IPv4 address and AS number at the
> same time to an LIR in other RIR region.
>
> - AS number is also limited resource, and it is meaningful to promote
> efficient use with transfer policy.
>
>
> 2. Objective of policy change
> -----------------------------
> The objective of this proposal is to allow transfer of AS numbers
> between organizations in the APNIC region, as well as with members of
> other RIRs, if a counterpart RIR has adopted an equivalent transfer
> policy for AS numbers.
>
>
> 3. Situation in other regions
> -----------------------------
>
> Intra-region transfer policy:
>
> ARIN:
> There is a AS number transfer policy in the ARIN region.
>
> No other RIRs implement AS number transfer policy.
>
> Inter-RIR transfer policy:
>
> ARIN:
> There was a Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-1 which allows Inter-RIR
> ASN transfers, but it was abandoned by ARIN AC in June 2013.
> (see https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2013_1.html)
>
> ARIN AC said the reason as follows in their statements; (see
> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2013-July/027028.html)
> "Based on the feedback received at the ARIN 31 Public Policy Meeting,
> and at the Public Policy Consultation at NANOG 58, the ARIN AC voted
> to abandon ARIN-2013-1 "Section 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers of ASNs". The
> feedback from the community indicated that many people felt the policy
> was unnecessary as it would have no effect until/unless another RIR
> expresses interest in allowing Inter-RIR ASN transfers as well.
>
>
> 4. Proposed policy solution
> ----------------------------
> AS numbers may be transferred if recipient of the transfer will meets
> the criteria under the current APNIC policy for an assignment of AS
> numbers.
>
> Inter-regional AS number transfers may take place only via RIRs who
> agree to the transfer and share reciprocal, compatible, needs-based
> policies.
>
>
> 5. Explain the advantages of the proposal
> -----------------------------------------
> Just like IPv4 addresses, AS numbers are finite resource. This proposal
> promotes efficient use of AS numbers by allowing transfers of AS
> numbers, which is no longer needed by the existing holders.
>
>
> 6. Explain the disadvantages of the proposal
> --------------------------------------------
> No disadvantages.
>
>
> 7. Impact on resource holders
> -----------------------------
> NIRs are able to choose whether or not to implement this policy.
>
>
> 8. References (if required)
> ---------------------------
>
> ARIN's AS number transfer policy:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight3
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