Re: [sig-policy] prop-088: Distribution of IPv4 addresses once the final
I have concerns about this policy.
Should any address space be handed to APNIC, in any fashion, I do not wish for APNIC to be the hoarding point for addresses. The final /8 policy allows one /22 (or what ever the size might be at the time) allocation to a full APNIC member. This results in the following breakdown:
o- A /16 reserved for future use (64 /22s) or until the rest of the /8 is allocated.
o- 16320 /22s, one for each full APNIC member.
And since the current APNIC membership is at about 2460 I can't see the value in adding to that pool, as if it were enacted today, 13860 /22s would remain. What is the use case for augmenting that pool with the returned address blocks?
I would think APNIC should be doing its best to get any returned address space out to those who could use it (yes even in the face of the ipv6 push), meaning that a member will get an automatic /22, and if they need more over and above that - then I would consider the returned space as the ideal top-up reserve. (If not returned to IANA for distribution into other geographic regions where need might be great)
Do I necessarily think the current policies are viable for a reserve pool like this, no. I'm not sure what would be 'right' in policy terms just now, but certainly more liberal than what currently is in play.
The interesting thing about this proposal is that it would create an artificial restriction on v4 address space in the AP region. This might facilitate more v6 deployment, or might just make the IPv4 'exchanges' between organisations more expensive. Irrespective of this observation, I don't believe APNIC should enact any policy that restricts v4 allocations based on need either in region, or out.
I cannot support this proposal as written.
Cheers
Terry
On 23/11/2010, at 11:14 AM, Terence Zhang YH wrote:
>
> Dear SIG members,
>
> The proposal, 'Distribution of IPv4 addresses once the final /8 period
> starts', has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be
> presented at the Policy SIG at APNIC 29 in Kuala Lumpur, 21-25 February
> 2011.
>
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
> before the meeting.
>
> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
> express your views on the proposal:
>
> - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
> - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If
> so, tell the community about your situation.
> - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
> - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
> - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
> effective?
>
>
> Information about this and other policy proposals is available from:
>
> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals
>
>
> Gaurab, Ching-Heng, and Terence
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> prop-088-v001: Distribution of IPv4 addresses once the final /8 period
> starts
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
> Author: Randy Bush
> <randy at psg dot com>
>
> Philip Smith
> <pfs at cisco dot com>
>
> Version: 1
>
> Date: 22 November 2010
>
>
>
> 1. Introduction
> ----------------
>
> This is a proposal to handle any IPv4 address space received by APNIC
> after the final /8 policy is implemented as being part of the final /8
> pool and to redistribute these resources according to the final /8
> policies.
>
> 2. Summary of current problem
> ------------------------------
>
> After APNIC has activated the "final /8" allocation policies[1], there
> is the possibility that APNIC will receive further IPv4 addresses.
> These IPv4 addresses will come either directly from Asia Pacific
> networks that no longer need them, or, if the global policy proposal
> for redistributing resources from the IANA succeeds, from the IANA.
>
> The intent of the authors of the original final /8 policy proposal was
> to have all other IPv4 allocation and assignment policies replaced by
> the delegation policy described in the final /8 policy. However, the
> current language of the final /8 policy does not explicitly repeal the
> other IPv4 allocation and assignment policies. The authors are therefore
> aware that there may be some confusion as to how such returned addresses
> should be distributed by APNIC. This proposal seeks to clarify the
> situation.
>
>
> 3. Situation in other RIRs
> ---------------------------
>
> There is no similar policy or proposal in other regions.
>
>
> 4. Details of the proposal
> ---------------------------
>
> It is proposed that:
>
> 4.1 When APNIC has distributed all other available IPv4 resources, and
> has to start distributing from the final /8, any IPv4 resources
> received after that point will be placed into the final /8 pool.
>
> - This placement into the final /8 pool will occur even if the
> result is a pool larger than one /8.
>
> - Subject to any future global policy for the redistribution of
> addresses received by the IANA from the RIRs (for example,
> prop-069), this placement applies to any IPv4 addresses APNIC
> receives from:
>
> - the IANA; and/or
> - holders of addresses in the APNIC Whois Database
>
>
> 4.2 These resources received in 4.1 are to be distributed according to
> the same policies as apply to the final /8 [1].
>
>
> 5. Advantages and disadvantages of the proposal
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 5.1 Advantages
>
> - It reduces confusion possible if IPv4 resources are received
> outside the final /8 but during the period when the final /8
> policy is active by explicitly stating how these IPv4 resources
> are to be handled.
>
>
> 5.2 Disadvantages
>
> - No disadvantages are foreseen.
>
>
> 6. Effect on APNIC members
> ---------------------------
>
> APNIC members can only request and receive a single distribution from
> the final /8. This would also apply to any other IPv4 addresses
> placed in the final /8 pool by this policy.
>
>
> 7. Effect on NIRs
> ------------------
>
> This will affect NIR members in the same way as APNIC members.
>
> 8. References
> --------------
>
> [1] Section 9.10 "Distribution of the final /8 worth of space in the
> unallocated APNIC IPv4 address pool" of "Policies for IPv4 address
> space management in the Asia Pacific region"
> http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy#9.10
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