RE: [JPNIC hostmaster 11830] Information Exchange

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  • Subject: RE: [JPNIC hostmaster 11830] Information Exchange
  • From: Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic dot ad dot jp>
  • Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 12:35:27 +0900
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      It's a good point. 
      
      It may be partly due to our culture, but it is also the area we still
      need to work on. There are more people involved in discussions
      compared to the initial meeting, but most presentations are still made
      by JPNIC secretariat or our working group.
      
      We use our mailings lists(LIR and JP address community MLs), post it
      on our website and mention it in IP related meetings/trainigs. It may
      also be good to suggest some people in your community who has a say to
      make a proposal.
      
      We did not start the JPOPM as a totally new meeting, but as a renewal
      of an exisitng meeting held annually. This must have helped since we
      did not have to build the base from scratch.
      
      We changed the name from Dec 2001, but started the preparation from
      Dec 2000. FYI, I list a brief chronology below:
      
       Dec 2000 Held as a program of "Internet Week" as an existing meeting.
                It was an offline meeting of our mailing list for IP related
                issues. Only panel discussions. No paticipation from
                attendees.(3 hrs)
      
       June 2001 Held as a BoF of "N+I Japan" as an existing meeting. Made
                 CFP, 1 presentation outside JPNIC(2.5 hrs). The meeting was
                 too short for discussions
      
       Dec 2001 Changed the name to "JPNIC Open Policy Meeting". Held as a
                program of IW and had 1 presentation outside JPNIC. (6.5
                hrs)Held a seperate joint session with APNIC as a related
                session. Received request from attendees to hold an
                independent 1 day meeting.
      
       July 2002 The first independent one day meeting. 2 presentations
                 outside JPNIC(6 hrs)
       
       Dec 2002 Held as a program of IW. 1 presentation outside JPNIC
                (6.5 hrs)
      
      I must also note that we had a great contribution from our working
      group in starting this meeting.
      
      I hope this helps, and wish you all the best for the coming meeting in
      Taiwan!
      
      Regards,
      Izumi
      
      From: "chianan" <hsieh at twnic dot net dot tw>
      Subject: RE: [JPNIC hostmaster 11830] Information Exchange
      Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:52:19 +0800
      
      > Dear Izumi,
      > 
      > Thank you very much for sharing with us JPNIC's OPM structure and
      > providing us the details.
      > 
      > I recalled that Yuka made an excellent presentation regarding the JPNIC
      > OPM status.
      > I think the most difficult part is the involvement from the ground.
      > How to encourage people submitting proposals, saying words in the ML or
      > meeting room?
      > 
      > The first JPNIC OPM was 2.5 hr long, now it's been extended to full day.
      > Does JPNIC implement any particular technique to stimulate the paper
      > submission?
      > 
      > 
      > Sincerely,
      > 
      > chianan
      > 
      > 
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: Izumi Okutani [mailto:izumi at nic dot ad dot jp] 
      > > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 1:51 PM
      > > To: hsieh at twnic dot net dot tw
      > > Cc: hosaka at nic dot ad dot jp; hostmaster at nic dot ad dot jp; sig-nir at lists dot apnic dot net
      > > Subject: RE: [JPNIC hostmaster 11830] Information Exchange
      > > 
      > > 
      > > Hi Chianan and all,
      > > 
      > > From: "chianan" <hsieh at twnic dot net dot tw>
      > > Subject: RE: [JPNIC hostmaster 11830] Information Exchange
      > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:30:07 +0800
      > > 
      > > > Dear Hosaka san and Izumi,
      > > > 
      > > > Thanks for your supporting comments.
      > > > 
      > > > I think JPNIC has more experience on OPM than other NIRs. Could you 
      > > > briefly introduce your previous OPMs to us? (e.g. How many SIGs, 
      > > > meeting scales..etc.)
      > > Sure, here is some basic information about our meeting:
      > > 
      > >  - Held twice a year, 3 meetings held in the past
      > >    1) held in December, as an "Internet Week" program which is a
      > >       technical conference hosted by JPNIC.
      > >    2) held independently in summer
      > >  - Address Policy SIG is simply called  "JPNIC Open Policy Meeting",
      > >    so no other sessions are held at the moment
      > >  - A one day session open to anybody. Registration is free.
      > >  - 80 attendees on average
      > >  - Discussion topics:
      > >    Issues regarding resource management policy is discussed
      > >    APNIC meeting results are introduced and implementation within
      > >    Japan on consensus issues are confirmed. For major issues, we also
      > >    confirm opinions here to introduce in an APNIC meeting. Proposal is
      > >    also open to anybody
      > >    
      > > The topics discussed at the last meeting were:
      > >    - APNIC Meeting Report
      > >    - Implementation of ASN assignment by LIRs 
      > >    - LIR downstream allocations 
      > >    - JPNIC Update
      > >    - Update on RIR activities
      > >    - JPIRR status report
      > >    - Panel discussions were also held on ICANN reform and IPv6 policy
      > >    - one proposal was made outside JPNIC.
      > > 
      > > The people are generally still shy to express their opinions, 
      > > but I believe they will gradually get used to discussions, 
      > > and it helps raising awareness within our community.
      > > 
      > > Some of the Japanese attendees who made comments at the 
      > > Kitakyushu meeting were the people who are also active in 
      > > JPNIC Open Policy Meeting.
      > > 
      > > We will report the meeting result in July again, but if there 
      > > is anything other information we can share, please let me know.
      > > 
      > > > Also I noticed that your email has a tag on the original 
      > > subject like 
      > > > [JPNIC hostamsters 11830]. Any seceret behind that?..:-)
      > > It's no big secret:-)
      > > 
      > > All our mailing lists have these tags atteched by automated system so
      > > that we are able to refer easily by giving the number.
      > > 
      > > Regards,
      > > Izumi
      > >  
      > > > Thanks!
      > > > 
      > > > chianan
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > From: sig-nir-admin at lists dot apnic dot net 
      > > > > [mailto:sig-nir-admin at lists dot apnic dot net] On Behalf Of 
      > > Toshiyuki Hosaka
      > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:21 AM
      > > > > To: sig-nir at lists dot apnic dot net
      > > > > Cc: hostmaster at nic dot ad dot jp
      > > > > Subject: Re: [JPNIC hostmaster 11830] Information Exchange
      > > > > 
      > > > > 
      > > > > Hi Chianan,
      > > > > 
      > > > > This is Toshiyuki Hosaka at JPNIC.  I agree that it's a good 
      > > > > idea to share our OPM results for the mutual better 
      > > > > understanding. JPNIC is going to hold our Open Policy Meeting 
      > > > > in July, and we are pleased to report the meeting overview 
      > > > > and its results.
      > > > > 
      > > > > Thanks and best regards,
      > > > > Toshiyuki Hosaka
      > > > > 
      > > > > 
      > > > > From: "chianan" <hsieh at twnic dot net dot tw>
      > > > > Subject: [JPNIC hostmaster 11830] Information Exchange
      > > > > Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 16:31:32 +0800
      > > > > 
      > > > > > Dear NIR folks,
      > > > > > 
      > > > > > We are aware that some NIRs hold Policy meetings regularly. 
      > > > > It would 
      > > > > > be good if NIRs could share their meeting results by 
      > > posting the 
      > > > > > outcomes to sig-nir mailing list. This information 
      > > exchange will be 
      > > > > > useful and benefit NIRs and APNIC.
      > > > > > 
      > > > > > What do you think?
      > > > > > 
      > > > > > Btw, the 1st TWNIC OPM is planned to be held in next  August.
      > > > > > TWNIC will be happy to share the results with the NIR community.
      > > > > > 
      > > > > > 
      > > > > > Sincerely,
      > > > > > 
      > > > > > Chianan
      > > > > > Co-Chair of NIR SIG
      > > > > > 
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