Re: [SANOG] Re: [apops] Fw: [IP] Ireland to regulate peering
- To: Mally Mclane <mally at ripe dot net>
- Subject: Re: [SANOG] Re: [apops] Fw: [IP] Ireland to regulate peering
- From: Joe Abley <jabley at isc dot org>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:39:07 -0400
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Thus, it doesn't suprise me this is happening in Ireland. On the plusFrom various comments on the NANOG list when this topic came up there the Irish directive is an implementation of EU directive 2002/19/EC, which apparently all member states will wind up implementing at some point. For example, here's the UK version (see section 5):
side, Ireland is the only here in Europe that I have heard such mutterings
from, for sure the UK, The Netherlands and Sweden (the three I know most
about) are not pondering it.
Roland Perry of the LINX made the comment that under these directives, regulators will only intervene of one ISP has "Significant Market Power" (defined as having 25% of a market, apparently, but I don't know where that definition comes from).
On Sunday, Jun 15, 2003, at 09:52 Canada/Eastern, Roland Perry wrote:
In practice, regulators will only intervene at all, if one of the ISPs has SMP. This is now almost impossible to achieve (tests of "dominance" apply) especially with the diversity of transit providers. An SMP ISP would have to dominate the *entire* market for wholesale transit in a country.So, it sounds like there's a certain amount of hysteria in the reporting of this story, and maybe it's not as dramatic a development as it sounds.