[apops] minutes from yesterday's meeting

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  • Subject: [apops] minutes from yesterday's meeting
  • From: Philip Smith <pfs at cisco dot com>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:36:36 +1000
  • Cc: Hideo Ishii <hishii at gblx dot net>
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    • Please find attached the minutes from yesterday's meeting. I apologise 
      about the format - I've tried to convert from M$Word and it may have come 
      out a bit garbled on your mail client...
      
      Thanks very much to Gerard Ross of APNIC for taking these minutes.
      
      Following on from the meeting, Hideo Ishii and I have suggested to APNIC 
      that APNIC might like to consider forming a special interest group dealing 
      with Internet Exchange Points. This would be a useful development for the 
      region, allowing a discussion forum for IXP operators and Internet service 
      providers.
      
      philip
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      12th APNIC Open Policy Meeting, Taipei, Taiwan
      BOF: APOPS
      Wednesday 29 August, Grand Hotel, Taipei
      Draft minutes
      Meeting commenced: 18:15
      Chair: Philip Smith & Hideo Ishii
      
      The Chair introduced the SIG and explained the agenda.
      
      Presentations
      
      1.      Report from JANOG
      Masura Mukai, JANOG
      
      This presentation provided an update on the status and activities of
      JANOG, including the formation of the JANOG IPv6 BOF, which deals with
      address policy and routing issues.
      
      Questions and discussion
      There was a question whether the BOF faces the problem of information
      sharing between business competitors. It was noted that sensitive
      information such as costs and network topology are not discussed.
      
      2.      Update on peering in Australia
      James Spenceley, ComIndico
      
      There was a general update on the number, relative size, and operations
      of Exchange Points in Australia.
      
      Questions and discussion
      There were general questions only relating to the measurements reported.
      
      3.      Formation of the Public Neutral Internet Exchange Point
      Tan Tin Wee, National University of Singapore
      
      This presentation outlines the current formation of the first public
      neutral IXP for Singapore, the Singapore Open IXP Project (SOX). This is
      a joint project of the National University Singapore and Cisco.
      
      Questions and discussion
      It was noted that final approval for this project to proceed is now
      granted in principle and that the project will commence very soon. It
      was also noted that a business model based on a non-profit basis is now
      being prepared.
      
      It was noted that the final engineering details have not yet been
      finalised.
      
      It was noted that this project will support both multilateral peering
      and bilateral peering. It was stressed that this will be a community
      project and that participants will be involved in determining policy. It
      was noted that there must be caution shown in terms of how to determine
      who can join. It was suggested that this should be determined by a
      neutral body, to avoid the appearance of forming a cartel.
      
      It was noted that currently all capacity into the building is provided
      by a single provider (OneNet) but that others may be brought on board.
      
      It was noted that there is currently no policy relating to filtering.
      
      4.      Report from JPNAP
      Katsuyasu Toyama, Internet Multifeed
      
      This presentation provided an update on the status and activities of
      JPNAP, which is a joint project of IIJ and NTT to provide another IXP
      for Japan. The presentation also outlined the experimental Photonic IX
      project.
      
      Questions and discussion
      It was noted that there is currently no plan to interconnect the JPNAP
      IXes in Tokyo and Osaka (due to commence later this year).
      
      There was general discussion about physical connectivity issues relating
      to the buidling used for JPNAP Tokyo.
      
      5.      Proposal for the formation of a regional IXP for Asia
      Pindar Wong, APIA
      
      There was a brief explanation of e-ASEAN and ARIX, regarding the
      concepts of interconnecting IXPs in the Asian region
      (www.e-aseantf.org).
      
      Questions and discussion
      There was a brief discussion of tariffing issues.
      
      It was noted that the e-ASEAN Task Force needs constructive community
      input..
      
      Bill Manning, EP.net
      A resource kit has been developed for the e-ASEAN task force, which is
      also available to the public, for the establishment and operation of
      IXPs.
      
      
      Meeting closed: 19:20
      Minuted by: Gerard Ross
      
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