Re: [apnic-transfers] apnic-transfers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1

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    • Subject: Re: [apnic-transfers] apnic-transfers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1
    • From: michael lee <michaellee090 at hotmail dot com>
    • Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 02:16:47 +0000
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      • Hi Amy, 


        At the beginning,  I should say that your auction way does not workable for the regulated IPv4 transfer market. 

        I think it is fine for the subscribers to know that HILCO gets the financial support/investment  from B-Stock Sourcing Network to make your brokerage business on IPv4 survive.  Furthermore,  considering that members only have the custodianship on the IPv4 and there are plenty of policy to comply with, your auction ways only work when the free market era kicks in. However, both you and other subscribers in this transfer list know that RIRs won’t let that happen.  The auction ways also contradict with basic rules of the Economics. Otherwise you should have already sold many IPv4 as you have listed ( the truth is that you have completed so few cases  since your introduction of the Auction years ago; many of your previously listed blocks still have not been sold and cos that those sellers have been misled and their IPv4 has been undervalued, those sellers are feeling  so deeply regretful for asking you to do the brokerage).   


        Ask some Subscribers from JPNIC and CNNIC and one or two speculator registered in this list, I think they can tell you the market price in each of their countries (which is dearer than yours in the Auction platform). The final deal price is always higher than what you have listed in the platform, which makes the buyer unhappy too.  No wondering both the sellers and the buyers are leaving you. 


        Anyone who is interested in further discussion on this topic or any derivatives from this topic can email me privately. 


        Cheers, 

        Michael





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        > Subject: apnic-transfers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1
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        > 1. New Listings on IPv4Auctions.com (Potter, Amy)
        > 2. Fwd: New IPv4 Ranges Available (Skeeve Stevens)
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        > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 20:46:34 +0000
        > From: "Potter, Amy" <apotter at hilcoglobal dot com>
        > To: "apnic-transfers at apnic dot net" <apnic-transfers at apnic dot net>
        > Subject: [apnic-transfers] New Listings on IPv4Auctions.com
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        > The latest set of auctions on IPv4Auctions.com will close on Wednesday, November 5th at 2:00 pm EST. Register at IPv4Auctions.com today to bid and see real winning bid prices from previous auctions.
        >
        > The following blocks are currently available on IPv4Auctions.com and can be transferred into APNIC:
        >
        >
        > * /24 Block-Minimum Opening Bid: $9.50 USD per address
        >
        > * /23 Block-Minimum Opening Bid: $9 USD per address
        >
        > * /20 Block-Minimum Opening Bid: $8 USD per address
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        > * /19 Block-Available at a "BUY NOW" price of $8 USD per address
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        > * /18 Block-Available at a "BUY NOW" price of $8 USD per address
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        > AN EASIER WAY TO PURCHASE IPv4 ADDRESSES:
        > Hilco Streambank's IPv4Auctions.com streamlines the process of purchasing IPv4 address blocks, and adds much needed transparency to the IPv4 market. Avoid time consuming back-and-forth calls and emails with sellers and brokers, and potentially costly contract negotiations.
        >
        > HOW IT WORKS:
        > Registered users agree to the terms of sale that govern the purchase and transfer of IPv4 address blocks won on the site each time they login to IPv4Auctions.com. After e-signing our Mutual Non-Disclosure Agreement, registered users can view the specific address ranges of all listed blocks, and diligence the IP addresses prior to bidding in an auction. After winning an auction, the winning bidder makes payment into escrow and proceeds directly to the transfer process. Payment is only released to the seller after the address block has been transferred into the buyer's APNIC account. Hilco Streambank assists throughout the entire process to ensure an efficient and smooth transfer.
        >
        > LOOKING TO SELL YOUR IP ADDRESSES?:
        > Please contact apotter at hilcostreambank dot com<mailto:apotter at hilcostreambank dot com> if you are interested in selling your IPv4 address blocks on our online auction platform, or via directly negotiated sales. Hilco Streambank is an experienced and innovative broker in the APNIC, ARIN and RIPE regions.
        >
        > QUESTIONS?:
        > Please contact apotter at hilcostreambank dot com<mailto:apotter at hilcostreambank dot com> with any questions.
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        > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:23:55 +1100
        > From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve at v4now dot com>
        > To: apnic-transfers <apnic-transfers at apnic dot net>
        > Subject: [apnic-transfers] Fwd: New IPv4 Ranges Available
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        > *IPv4 Announcement* *Update on Current Available Ranges* v4Now
        > represents holders of IPv4 resources who are interested in selling all or
        > part of their holding. Code FN194 - Resource Size: */17 (or 2*/18)* Code
        > LP185 - Resource Size: */18 (or 2*/19)* Code SB028 - Resource Size: */20,
        > /21, /22, /23* Code LW219 - Resource Size: */20 (or 2*/21)* Code BX005 -
        > Resource Size: */21* Code FC022 - Resource Size: */19* Code GG028 -
        > Resource Size: */21*
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        > Region: APNIC
        > Price: All reasonable offers will be presented to resource holders
        >
        > Please visit: http://v4now.com/ip-resource-offer/
        > <http://eintellegonetworks.us5.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=58c385175d47244890b2a7677&id=2a25e71023&e=9a698f18d7>
        > to make an offer.
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        >
        >
        > ...Skeeve
        >
        > *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
        > *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks service
        > skeeve at v4now dot com ; www.v4now.com
        >
        > Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
        >
        > facebook.com/v4now ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>
        > linkedin.com/in/skeeve
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        > twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
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        > IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
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