Re: [apnic-talk] apnic-talk Digest, Vol 125, Issue 5
Greetings !
Shyam and I are encouraged to note that the continuity of the PPAC session has been ensured. Many thanks to APNIC EC and especially Akinori San.
However, we would like to place certain facts in view of the developments so far:
a) The Chair and Co-Chair never communicated to APNIC for cancelling the PPAC session at APNIC 38.
b) We in fact communicated our inability to attending due to certain reasons and sought clarification from APNIC Secretariat about the possibility of holding the session (PPAC and BoF combined) remotely.
c) Somehow we did not got a response on the possibility to conduct the session remotely for couple of days.
d) A day before the scheduled session, we were informed that the session has been amended to a BoF session.
e) Further Secretariat have discussed internally to recommend to EC that they proceed with the idea to recommend community to form a Co-operation SIG.
f) At APNIC 37 there was a decision made during the PPAC session to send the draft by laws to EC for their approval / ratification so that the same could be finalized.
g) We note that much before the EC could review and approve, the draft has been further amended for Co-operation SIG.
h) In our view the draft changes / modifications should have been discussed with the Chairs/Co-Chair and the sub-committee before presenting to the BoF. This was somehow missed.
While there is an effort underway to get the charter or Co-operation SIG approved at today’s AMM, we think it is equally important to have a prior discussion with Chair / Co-Chair on the "future modalities".
We had initial discussions and are sure we will be consulted in finalisation of the forum going forward in that capacity.
Regards,
Naveen Tandon / Shyam Nair
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: BoF Update: Draft Charter for Cooperation SIG
(MAEMURA Akinori)
2. Re: BoF Update: Draft Charter for Cooperation SIG
(MAEMURA Akinori)
3. Re: BoF Update: Draft Charter for Cooperation SIG (Naresh Ajwani)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:43:15 +0900
From: MAEMURA Akinori <maem at nic dot ad dot jp>
To: Adam Gosling <adam at apnic dot net>, APNIC Talk <apnic-talk at apnic dot net>
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] BoF Update: Draft Charter for Cooperation
SIG
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Allow me to crossposting.
Thank you those of whom participated in PPAC/BoF Cooperation SIG on Tuesday.
I presented the EC's proposal and had several constructive responses which I really appreciate.
We with Secretariat revised the charter to reflect the points presented there.
Among them, I'd like to highlight on Naresh Ajwani's point:
The origin of PPAC activity was the proposal for GAC: Government Advisory Committee for APNIC in the wg-government before it was renamed into PPAC.
It would be wrong If you think the progression of government -> public policy -> cooperation as our intention to reduce the involvement from government segment.
the selection of the word "cooperation" came from RIPE's "cooperation working group" which the EC modeled after. We definitely recongize the need to engage government segment for the discussion of broader issues
on the Internet. We pretty much expect that SIG will get able to
gather government people. It will be the working item for APNIC which
is not limited to the SIG.
I will be very happy to have your comments before AMM on line as well as during the AMM when the BoF report!
MAEMURA Akinori, Chair of the APNIC Executive Council
(2014/09/17 6:21), Adam Gosling wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> A BoF, held at 11:00 on Tuesday, 16 September during APNIC 38,
> discussed a proposal for the creation of an APNIC Cooperation SIG.
> During the discussion, changes were proposed to the draft Charter.
> Please find a revised draft Charter below.
>
> The SIG proposal will be presented to the AMM on Friday, 19 September
> 2014, for its consideration and support.
>
> All session Information:
> http://conference.apnic.net/38/program#ppac
>
> View the Webcast video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7lVgAKPytY
>
> See the presentation slides:
> http://www.slideshare.net/apnic/cooperation-sig-final-final
>
>
> Draft Charter:
>
> - The Cooperation SIG is a forum for discussion about broader Internet
> issues like Public Policy and Internet Governance, which are related
> to APNIC community interests, but which involve governments, other
> organizations, and other communities.
>
> - The Secretariat will report to the SIG about APNIC's outreach
> activities and seek advice and guidance on future activities.
>
> - The SIG will act as a forum to develop and clarify the APNIC
> community's position on issues of relevance to the public sector, or
> on matters for which a community position has been sought.
>
> - The SIG should focus on information sharing, outreach, capacity
> building, and other activities that will advance APNIC's vision for a
> global, open, stable, and secure Internet.
>
> --- ends ---
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adam
> _______________________________________________________
> Adam Gosling
> Internet Policy Development Consultant, APNIC
> e: adam at apnic dot net
> p: +61 7 3858 3142
> m: +61 421 456 243
> www.apnic.net
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>
> Join the conversation: https://blog.apnic.net/
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:44:59 +0900
From: MAEMURA Akinori <maem at nic dot ad dot jp>
To: Adam Gosling <adam at apnic dot net>, APNIC Talk <apnic-talk at apnic dot net>
Cc: ppac at apnic dot net
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] BoF Update: Draft Charter for Cooperation
SIG
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it was not really crossposted. let me crosspost again for maintaining thread.
Sorry apnic-talk people to have this message again.
Akinori
(2014/09/17 11:43), MAEMURA Akinori wrote:
> Allow me to crossposting.
>
> Thank you those of whom participated in PPAC/BoF Cooperation SIG on
> Tuesday.
>
> I presented the EC's proposal and had several constructive responses
> which I really appreciate.
> We with Secretariat revised the charter to reflect the points
> presented there.
>
> Among them, I'd like to highlight on Naresh Ajwani's point:
> The origin of PPAC activity was the proposal for GAC: Government
> Advisory Committee for APNIC in the wg-government before it was
> renamed into PPAC.
>
> It would be wrong If you think the progression of government -> public
> policy -> cooperation as our intention to reduce the involvement from
> government segment.
>
> the selection of the word "cooperation" came from RIPE's "cooperation
> working group" which the EC modeled after. We definitely recongize the
> need to engage government segment for the discussion of broader issues
> on the Internet. We pretty much expect that SIG will get able to
> gather government people. It will be the working item for APNIC which
> is not limited to the SIG.
>
> I will be very happy to have your comments before AMM on line as well
> as during the AMM when the BoF report!
>
> MAEMURA Akinori, Chair of the APNIC Executive Council
>
>
>
> (2014/09/17 6:21), Adam Gosling wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> A BoF, held at 11:00 on Tuesday, 16 September during APNIC 38,
>> discussed a proposal for the creation of an APNIC Cooperation SIG.
>> During the discussion, changes were proposed to the draft Charter.
>> Please find a revised draft Charter below.
>>
>> The SIG proposal will be presented to the AMM on Friday, 19 September
>> 2014, for its consideration and support.
>>
>> All session Information:
>> http://conference.apnic.net/38/program#ppac
>>
>> View the Webcast video:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7lVgAKPytY
>>
>> See the presentation slides:
>> http://www.slideshare.net/apnic/cooperation-sig-final-final
>>
>>
>> Draft Charter:
>>
>> - The Cooperation SIG is a forum for discussion about broader
>> Internet issues like Public Policy and Internet Governance, which are
>> related to APNIC community interests, but which involve governments,
>> other organizations, and other communities.
>>
>> - The Secretariat will report to the SIG about APNIC?s outreach
>> activities and seek advice and guidance on future activities.
>>
>> - The SIG will act as a forum to develop and clarify the APNIC
>> community's position on issues of relevance to the public sector, or
>> on matters for which a community position has been sought.
>>
>> - The SIG should focus on information sharing, outreach, capacity
>> building, and other activities that will advance APNIC?s vision for a
>> global, open, stable, and secure Internet.
>>
>> ? ends ?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Adam
>> _______________________________________________________
>> Adam Gosling
>> Internet Policy Development Consultant, APNIC
>> e: adam at apnic dot net
>> p: +61 7 3858 3142
>> m: +61 421 456 243
>> www.apnic.net
>> _______________________________________________________
>>
>> Join the conversation: https://blog.apnic.net/
>> _______________________________________________________
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:27:21 +0530
From: Naresh Ajwani <ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com>
To: MAEMURA Akinori <maem at nic dot ad dot jp>
Cc: apnic-talk at apnic dot net
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] BoF Update: Draft Charter for Cooperation
SIG
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Akinori San,
I use my right to reserve my comments and views on my concern which has been trimmed in your posting, for the AMM.
Regards & best wishes
Naresh Ajwani
On 17-Sep-2014 12:43 pm, "MAEMURA Akinori" <maem at nic dot ad dot jp> wrote:
> Allow me to crossposting.
>
> Thank you those of whom participated in PPAC/BoF Cooperation SIG on
> Tuesday.
>
> I presented the EC's proposal and had several constructive responses
> which I really appreciate.
> We with Secretariat revised the charter to reflect the points
> presented there.
>
> Among them, I'd like to highlight on Naresh Ajwani's point:
> The origin of PPAC activity was the proposal for GAC: Government
> Advisory Committee for APNIC in the wg-government before it was renamed into PPAC.
>
> It would be wrong If you think the progression of government -> public
> policy -> cooperation as our intention to reduce the involvement from
> government segment.
>
> the selection of the word "cooperation" came from RIPE's "cooperation
> working group" which the EC modeled after. We definitely recongize
> the need to engage government segment for the discussion of broader issues on
> the Internet. We pretty much expect that SIG will get able to gather
> government people. It will be the working item for APNIC which is not
> limited to the SIG.
>
> I will be very happy to have your comments before AMM on line as well
> as during the AMM when the BoF report!
>
> MAEMURA Akinori, Chair of the APNIC Executive Council
>
>
>
> (2014/09/17 6:21), Adam Gosling wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> A BoF, held at 11:00 on Tuesday, 16 September during APNIC 38,
> discussed a proposal for the creation of an APNIC Cooperation SIG.
> During the discussion, changes were proposed to the draft Charter.
> Please find a revised draft Charter below.
>
> The SIG proposal will be presented to the AMM on Friday, 19 September
> 2014, for its consideration and support.
>
> All session Information:
> http://conference.apnic.net/38/program#ppac
>
> View the Webcast video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7lVgAKPytY
>
> See the presentation slides:
> http://www.slideshare.net/apnic/cooperation-sig-final-final
>
>
> Draft Charter:
>
> - The Cooperation SIG is a forum for discussion about broader
> Internet issues like Public Policy and Internet Governance, which are
> related to APNIC community interests, but which involve governments,
> other organizations, and other communities.
>
> - The Secretariat will report to the SIG about APNIC?s outreach
> activities and seek advice and guidance on future activities.
>
> - The SIG will act as a forum to develop and clarify the APNIC
> community's position on issues of relevance to the public sector, or
> on matters for which a community position has been sought.
>
> - The SIG should focus on information sharing, outreach, capacity
> building, and other activities that will advance APNIC?s vision for a
> global, open, stable, and secure Internet.
>
> ? ends ?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adam
>
> _______________________________________________________
> Adam Gosling
> Internet Policy Development Consultant, APNIC
> e: adam at apnic dot net
> p: +61 7 3858 3142
> m: +61 421 456 243www.apnic.net
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