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I also support request for full transparency of expenditure and outcome.
This would also help in looking at membership issues and help to the members
by reduced fees to NIRs and allocation of funds towards membership benefit
and in a balanced way for all regions/economies of APNIC. With reduce fees
to NIRs, NIRs themselves would be able to engage with its members over
issues which are more relevant to that NIR membership.
With regards
Brajesh Jain
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[mailto:apnic-talk-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net] On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton
Sent: 29 April 2014 11:07
To: Masato Yamanishi
Cc: apnic-talk at lists dot apnic dot net
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] ICANN 49 event wrapup
I agree with Yamanishi-san.
The document detailing the activities undertaken by APNIC at the
ICANN49 meeting are an excellent first step to articulating to
membership what the purpose and benefits are of this level of
engagement.
As previously mentioned, I don't believe that the root of the issue is
business class travel or otherwise, I believe that it is demonstrating
to the membership, in a way that they accept, that the balance between
the expenditure and outcomes is appropriate.
In order to do that, there must be transparency and a level of
detailed reporting across both areas. ÂIt is only then that the
membership can determine if they find the balance appropriate.
To that end I would support an increased level of financial and
activity reporting along the lines Yamanishi-san has suggested. ÂWe do
see this increased reporting in RIRs and other multistakeholder
organisations and they are to be commended for this.
This will allow the membership to determine if outputs such as those
reported by APNIC at ICANN49 are balanced with the expenditure
required to produce them.
With regard to NetMundial, the final output document is out for
comment, so I would expect a detailed assessment by members of the
APNIC delegation would be presented any time now.
My favourate part of the document so far is:
"Internet governance discussions would benefit from improved
communication and coordination between technical and non-technical
communities, providing a better understanding about the policy
implications in technical decisions and technical implications in
policy decision making."
Ensuring that Internet Governance messages are reframed and
communicated in a way that the technical community finds easy to
access and engage with seems like something that APNIC is well placed
to do.
Regards
--
Dean Pemberton
Technical Policy Advisor
InternetNZ
+64 21 920 363 (mob)
dean at internetnz dot net dot nz
To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Masato Yamanishi
<myamanis at japan-telecom dot com> wrote:
> Paul and Tony,
>
> BTW, I think this page is more transparent than past APNIC announcement.
>
> http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/icann-49-event-wrapup
>
> So, can we expect similar announcement about NETmundial in last week?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Rgs,
> Masato Yamanishi
>
>
> On 14/04/26 0:44, "Dave Mead" <dave_mead at aim dot com> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> Your speech at Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program meeting is utterly
> disappointing to APNIC Members.
>
> http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/icann-49-event-wrapup
>
> You said, "...Members pay fees to APNIC to support the organisation and
the
> services and they don't give APNIC a blessing to spend that money in
> unlimited fashion on Internet development..."
>
> http://audio.icann.org/meetings/singapore2014/apilp-22mar14-en.mp3
>
> Members DID NOT BLESS APNIC to spend the fees on business class travel
which
> costs 3 times more than an economy class ticket. The entire senior
> management, including your Executve Assistant and those who work for APNIC
> as consultants travel in business class contributing to the success of the
> airlines but clearly not Internet development in this region.
>
> http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/team
>
> Paul, you're leading a not-for-profit organisation not a comerncial entity
> that you and your senior management can erode member funds for your
> comfortable travels across the world. This is just outrageous and
> mismanagement of Member funds.
>
> Members like to see the Executive Council takes note of this and truely
> represent the Members to better manage their funds to contribute for the
> Internet development in this region. A lot of development work can be done
> if the funds are managed effectively not use for personal benefits.
>
> Best
> -Dave Mead
>
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