Re: [apnic-talk] ICANN 49 event wrapup
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- Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] ICANN 49 event wrapup
- From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve at eintellegonetworks dot com>
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 02:14:57 +1000
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So you don't think it is in the interests of APNIC that members of LEAs understand as much as possible about the way the Internet works, Internet structure, process, enforceability, etc etc?
Personally I think training the LEA's is a good thing... but the expense of doing so can't be very much. ÂSending a trainer off to an LEA for a day isn't going to break the bank. ÂIt is also valuable to the community that when we have security issues:
- DDoS attacks
- Criminal actions (identity theft, cross border fraud, financial crimes, spying, etc etc etc)
That we KNOW the LEAs will understand a) what is going on b) how it is occurring c) know who they can talk to about helping out with cross-border incidents.
Or you'd prefer them to be stupid and in the dark?
I'd suggest that LEA training benefits the community in MANY ways, especially as the cross-border crimes get more numerous... and if all LEAs were able to have more of a co-ordinated effort, I would certainly appreciate it.
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM, <haquehanif at hushmail dot com> wrote:
Very good point but its a taboo at APNIC to discuss about Members fee and APNIC (mis) management of funds. APNIC maintains a white list and a black list of public contacts. You're now in their black list for raising this. Like many others, this discussion will end up in the no through road. The Executive council we selected are like the famous three wise monkeys."see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil". For our representatives business is as usual.
APNIC recently started providing training for law enforcement agencies using Members funds....we did not blessed either. Its a good initiative and I personally commend APNIC for this. However, these LEAs are government agencies and have big budgets. If LEAs request training APNIC must use LEAs budget to provide such trainings not Members funds. Its just not right!
Hanif H Mohd
Senior Network Consultant
On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 5:44 PM, "Dave Mead" <dave_mead at aim dot com> wrote: Â ÂPaul,
ÂYour speech at Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program meeting is utterly disappointing to APNIC Members.
You said, "...Members pay fees to APNIC to support the organisation and the services and they don't give APNIC a blessing to spend that money in unlimited fashion on Internet development..."
ÂMembers DID NOT BLESS APNIC to spend the fees on business class travel which costs 3 times more than an economy class ticket. The entire senior management, including your Executve Assistant and those who work for APNIC as consultants travel in business class contributing to the success of the airlines but clearly not Internet development in this region.
ÂPaul, you're leading a not-for-profit organisation not a comerncial entity that you and your senior management can erode member funds for your comfortable travels across the world. This is just outrageous and mismanagement of Member funds.
ÂMembers like to see the Executive Council takes note of this and truely represent the Members to better manage their funds to contribute for the Internet development in this region. A lot of development work can be done if the funds are managed effectively not use for personal benefits.
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