Re: [apnic-talk] IANA Globalization Progress
I'm aware this information doesn't resolve your concern.
It was intended to share information at the ICANN meeting with the
people on this list.
Regards,
Izumi
(2014/03/26 11:14), Masato Yamanishi wrote:
> Okutani-san,
>
> As I wrote in last e-mail to Maemura-san and others,
> I have a concern for the process itself and would like to ask EC to claim
> it to ICANN.
>
> http://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/apnic-talk/archive/2014/03/msg00059.
> html
>
>>> EC members>
>>> I believe you are preparing some input as APNIC community for this
>>> proposed process,
>>> I would like to ask you claiming that each internet bodies should have
>>> more flexibility during this process, in particular time constrain, and
>>> ICANN should respect such flexibility of each internet bodies.
>
> Rgs,
> Masato Yamanishi
>
>
>
>
> On 14/03/25 18:07, "Izumi Okutani" <izumi at nic dot ad dot jp> wrote:
>
>> Yamanishi-san and all,
>>
>>
>> I did read your follow up post but just to share more information about
>> what's happening here at ICANN Singapore with all of you -
>>
>> You can find out more details from the presentation and transcripts of
>> the session below:
>>
>> IANA Accountability Transition
>> http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-accountability
>>
>> It was emphasized that ICANN meetings and ICANN community are not the
>> only opportuniy or the community to discuss the IANA transition.
>>
>> They welcome discussions at other forums including those of the RIRs,
>> which ofcourse includes APNIC. You can see this from P.17 of the slides,
>> APNIC and APRICOT clearly listed.
>>
>> If there are issues process wise as Yamanishi-san has pointed out, it is
>> also possible to submit comments directly to the ICANN as well at:
>>
>> ianatransition at icann dot org
>> http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/iana/transition
>>
>> This is not intended to stop discussions here ofcourse and I just want
>> to share that there are ways to directly give feedbacks to the ICANN.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Izumi@Singapore
>>
>> (2014/03/25 3:11), Masato Yamanishi wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> John Curran, ARIN CEO, just shared next step on arin-ppml mailing list,
>>> and let me share it as I could not find better source.
>>> (Sorry, I don't have any intension to quote it)
>>>
>>> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2014-March/028006.html
>>>
>>> And, we need to reply feedback before "Mar 27th, 2014" which means this
>>> THURSDAY!!
>>> However, I have not yet understood what we need to give a feedback for.
>>> Does somebody know it?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/iana/functions-transfer-process-
>>> 14m
>>> ar14-en.pdf
>>>
>>> My first comment for this is "It's too urgent. ICANN should not push
>>> other
>>> internet orgs to do anything."
>>>
>>> Rgs,
>>> Masato Yamanishi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/03/22 20:16, "Tony Smith" <tony at apnic dot net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Naresh
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, to answer your earlier question about "plans" - the plan is
>>>> something
>>>> that APNIC, our community, and all interested Internet users worldwide
>>>> have
>>>> been prompted to contribute to as per the NTIA announcement (which
>>>> asked ICANN
>>>> to facilitate).
>>>>
>>>> Paul's email from Friday (available here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2014/iana-globalization-consultat
>>>> ion-pr
>>>> ocess) explained the next steps.
>>>>
>>>> Everyone - including the Secretariat! - is hoping to find out more at
>>>> ICANN 49
>>>> in Singapore. We hope there will be discussion at the meeting on how
>>>> this
>>>> process is going to work and the community will have some input into
>>>> the
>>>> mechanics of the consultation process. ICANN changed the program just
>>>> today
>>>> with an updated time for its discussion session - it is now at 10.30am
>>>> SG time
>>>> on Monday:
>>>> http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-globalization-advisory
>>>>
>>>> As Paul's email said, the APNIC EC is currently considering the best
>>>> ways to
>>>> facilitate discussions and capture input from the Asia Pacific
>>>> community. It
>>>> would be great to hear your and other Members' views on how the APNIC
>>>> community can contribute to this process.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> From: Naresh Ajwani <ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, 23 March 2014 10:19 am
>>>> To: MAEMURA Akinori <maem at nic dot ad dot jp>
>>>> Cc: "apnic-talk at lists dot apnic dot net" <apnic-talk at lists dot apnic dot net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] IANA Globalization Progress
>>>>
>>>> Maemura, hi
>>>>
>>>> Masato; Do you mean that DG had signed it before consulting EC nor
>>>> members as
>>>>>> there was not enough time?
>>>>>> Does it comply with APNIC by-laws 54? It says;
>>>> Maemura; "I am sure he has been in full touch with the EC to proceed
>>>> these
>>>> issues and signed them under the EC's authorization."
>>>>
>>>> Is it part of any Munute of Meeting or mails and if in public domain?
>>>>
>>>> Transparency wud help more. I am still waiting for the plans if any, I
>>>> had
>>>> asked for in this thread mails
>>>>
>>>> Regards & best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Naresh Ajwani
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Mar 2014 06:37, "MAEMURA Akinori" <maem at nic dot ad dot jp> wrote:
>>>>> Masato,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (2014/03/21 11:18), Masato Yamanishi wrote:
>>>>>>> Maemura-san and EC members,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for sharing EC's view.
>>>>>>> Let me quote your statement in slightly different order to make my
>>>>>> comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Technically speaking on the basis of our governing provisions,
>>>>>>>>> the Executive Council has function to act on behalf of the Members
>>>>>>>>> in the interval between AGMs, and to manage the activities,
>>>>>>>>> functions
>>>>>>>>> and affairs of APNIC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More practically, the EC represents the Membership to manage
>>>>>>>>> APNIC's
>>>>>>>>> activity,
>>>>>>>>> and need to comply the will of the Membership, sometimes with the
>>>>>>>>> broader community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have the power to authorise the activity by DG and Secretariat
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the Membership,
>>>>>>>>> but need to synchronise our thought on the authorization with the
>>>>>>>>> Membership.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why we set a timeslot to discuss the Internet Governance
>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>> in the AMM this time,
>>>>>>>>> after we announced our support for Montevideo Statement in
>>>>>>>>> January.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It complies with APNIC by-laws 30, so I don't see any problem from
>>>>>>> procedure perspective.
>>>>> Yes, as you see the wording in my message was in accordance with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> BUT,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Montevideo Statement was crafted among the I* CEOs in the
>>>>>>>>> situation, as
>>>>>>>>> Tony has already told,
>>>>>>>>> with very limited time allowance with very quick moves at that
>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>> and so was the I*'s reaction to NTIA statement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean that DG had signed it before consulting EC nor members
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> there was not enough time?
>>>>>>> Does it comply with APNIC by-laws 54? It says;
>>>>> I am sure he has been in full touch with the EC to proceed these
>>>>> issues and
>>>>> signed them under the EC's authorization.
>>>>>
>>>>> Akinori
>>>>>>> 54. The main functions of the Director General are:
>>>>>>> a. to act as the chief executive officer of APNIC and the
>>>>>>> corporation;
>>>>>>> b. to have, subject to the provisions of these by-laws and to the
>>>>>>> direction of the Executive Council, the responsibility for the
>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>> management and control of the activities, functions and affairs of
>>>>>>> APNIC
>>>>>>> and the corporation and shall perform all duties and have all
>>>>>>> powers which
>>>>>>> are commonly incident to the office of chief executive or which are
>>>>>>> delegated by the Executive Council;
>>>>>>> c. to execute all contracts, agreements and other instruments of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> corporation which are authorised including affixing the Seal of the
>>>>>>> corporation;
>>>>>>> d. to appoint and have general supervision and direction of all
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> other staff and agents of APNIC and the corporation, including but
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> limited to bookkeeping, accounting and treasury functions on behalf
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> Treasurer;
>>>>>>> e. to implement strategic policies, prepare plans for APNIC, and
>>>>>>> shall
>>>>>>> coordinate its activities, functions and affairs;
>>>>>>> f. to report to the Executive Council and to put forward
>>>>>>> resolutions for
>>>>>>> the consideration of the Executive Council;
>>>>>>> g. to take all the actions required to ensure the economic use of
>>>>>>> APNIC's resources and shall be responsible to the Executive Council
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> all the administrative and financial aspects of APNIC's activities;
>>>>>>> h. to act as the legal representative of APNIC and the
>>>>>>> corporation;
>>>>>>> i. to act as an ex-officio member of the Executive Council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rgs,
>>>>>>> Masato Yamanishi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14/03/19 0:12, "MAEMURA Akinori" <maem at nic dot ad dot jp> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Masato, Pranesh and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know this is very late response for your request for the EC to
>>>>>>> clarify.
>>>>>>>>> Apologies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:41:35 -0700
>>>>>>>>> In message <CF4CC73D.85D7D%myamanis at japan-telecom dot com
>>>>>>> <mailto:CF4CC73D.85D7D%25myamanis at japan-telecom dot com> >
>>>>>>>>> "Re: [apnic-talk] IANA Globalization Progress"
>>>>>>>>> "Masato Yamanishi <myamanis at japan-telecom dot com>" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> | Pranesh and All,
>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>> | While I'm not new to APNIC, I have same question/concern.
>>>>>>>>> | Can EC clarify it?
>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Montevideo Statement was crafted among the I* CEOs in the
>>>>>>>>> situation, as
>>>>>>>>> Tony has already told, with very limited time allowance with very
>>>>>>>>> quick
>>>>>>>>> moves at that time, and so was the I*'s reaction to NTIA
>>>>>>>>> statement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Technically speaking on the basis of our governing provisions, the
>>>>>>>>> Executive Council has function to act on behalf of the Members in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> interval between AGMs, and to manage the activities, functions and
>>>>>>>>> affairs of APNIC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More practically, the EC represents the Membership to manage
>>>>>>>>> APNIC's
>>>>>>>>> activity, and need to comply the will of the Membership,
>>>>>>>>> sometimes with
>>>>>>>>> the broader community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have the power to authorise the activity by DG and Secretariat
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Membership, but need to synchronise our thought on the
>>>>>>>>> authorization
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the Membership.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why we set a timeslot to discuss the Internet Governance
>>>>>>>>> issue
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the AMM this time, after we announced our support for Montevideo
>>>>>>>>> Statement in January.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was great to see very active discussion there, and that it
>>>>>>>>> triggered
>>>>>>>>> the continued discussion on line.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As Masato points out, now Paul is more engaged in the activity of
>>>>>>>>> coordination among our fellow organizations and ITU arena, which
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> on the EC's authorization. We authorize becuase we think it
>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand it looks like politics game with little thing, if not
>>>>>>>>> nothing, to do with Members' own business.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However from the viewpoint of a company whose business is serving
>>>>>>>>> community with Internet Resource, one of which is APNIC, it is
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> important to address the risk of unwanted non-viable arrangement
>>>>>>>>> and to
>>>>>>>>> have people with other stakes understand our position.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Moreover, as already mentioned, the forthcoming couple of years
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>> crucial stage for us to keep our healthy business environment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's why we authorize these activities by Secretariat, and what
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to have you understand.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As we have many things to come, Director General and the EC will
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> more communication each other to consider these actions, than we
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> already been doing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know, through my own business, that how Internet Governance
>>>>>>>>> issues are
>>>>>>>>> difficult for people (e.g. of tech community) to realize, I am
>>>>>>>>> still on
>>>>>>>>> the way to find how I can couple the issue we confront adequately
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> community's interest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The EC needs to have the Membership's support with well-informed
>>>>>>> consent,
>>>>>>>>> and of course we need to change our thought just in case we found
>>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>>> not of the Membership and community, and I hope the current
>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>> will valuable for the purpose.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MAEMURA Akinori, my own hat on, but I am sure the EC well sheres
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> | Rgs,
>>>>>>>>> | Masato Yamanishi
>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>> | On 14/03/14 23:01, "Pranesh Prakash" <pranesh at cis-india dot org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>> | >Tony Smith [2014-03-14 21:42]:
>>>>>>>>> | >> As I'm sure you appreciate, the news from the US has just
>>>>>>>>> arrived
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> | >>morning and a lot of the details are still coming to light.
>>>>>>>>> We're
>>>>>>>>> | >>planning to prepare something that explains what this
>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>>> | >>in more detail when more information is confirmed.
>>>>>>>>> | >
>>>>>>>>> | >I'm sorry, but I'm new to APNIC's lists.
>>>>>>>>> | >
>>>>>>>>> | >Was there any consultation within APNIC before APNIC's
>>>>>>>>> leader's name
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> | >added to this statement? Could you also point me towards the
>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>> | >consultation / mailing list discussions that took place before
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> | >Montevideo Declaration was signed as something APNIC endorsed?
>>>>>>>>> | >
>>>>>>>>> | >> But for now, we wanted to alert everyone to this news and
>>>>>>>>> the fact
>>>>>>>>> | >>consultation will begin in our region in Singapore.
>>>>>>>>> | >
>>>>>>>>> | >Could you outline the intra-APNIC consultations (i.e., not the
>>>>>>>>> ICANN
>>>>>>>>> | >consultations about which ICANN's published a document) that
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>> | >place with regard to this? Which mailing list will these
>>>>>>>>> discussions
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> | >directed towards?
>>>>>>>>> | >
>>>>>>>>> | >--
>>>>>>>>> | >Pranesh Prakash
>>>>>>>>> | >Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society
>>>>>>>>> | >T: +91 80 40926283 <tel:%2B91%2080%2040926283> | W:
>>>>>>> http://cis-india.org
>>>>>>>>> | >-------------------
>>>>>>>>> | >Access to Knowledge Fellow, Information Society Project, Yale
>>>>>>>>> Law
>>>>>>>>> School
>>>>>>>>> | >M: +1 520 314 7147 <tel:%2B1%20520%20314%207147> | W:
>>>>>>> http://yaleisp.org
>>>>>>>>> | >PGP ID: 0x1D5C5F07 | Twitter:
>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash
>>>>>>>>> | >
>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>> |
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