Re: [apnic-talk] APNIC EC Election Review Panel
> > So as an evidence how about we look at Mr Wilson's travel
> records for the last ten years or may be travel,
> accommodation, renumeration?
>
> Typically, accusers have evidence before making public accusations.
Yes, without concrete evidence, it is just criticizing for each individuals
and such way is not fair.
Rgs,
Masato
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:apnic-talk-bounces at lists dot apnic dot net] On Behalf Of David Conrad
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: Sameer Bhagwat
> Cc: apnic-talk at apnic dot net
> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] APNIC EC Election Review Panel
>
> Sameer,
>
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:19 AM, Sameer Bhagwat wrote:
> >> You're accusing the DG of misappropriating funds "for
> personal luxury"? That's pretty serious. What evidence do you have?
> > You are a former APNIC Director General and you are still
> askign for evidence.
>
> Well, yes. I was DG more than a decade ago. This doesn't
> give me any special insight into the internal workings of
> APNIC today, particularly of any alleged misappropriations.
>
> > So as an evidence how about we look at Mr Wilson's travel
> records for the last ten years or may be travel,
> accommodation, renumeration?
>
> Typically, accusers have evidence before making public accusations.
>
> > apnic is a membership based not-for-profit business and
> everything needs to be open to its members.
>
> APNIC is a business and as such, has appropriate
> confidentiality concerns (e.g., personnel records,
> proprietary networks plans submitted for justification of
> requests, etc). While I believe APNIC, as part of the
> bottom-up address policy definition mechanism, strives for
> openness and transparency as a component of its legitimacy,
> I'm curious as to why you believe its status as a
> not-for-profit demands "everything needs to be open to its members".
>
> > With due respect to Mr Wilson for his last ten years
> service and for what he has doen to APNIC but David, APNIC is
> not Mr Wilson's regime and nor it is his gold mine. its time
> that he step down and make way for fresh blood. enough is enough.
>
> Paul Wilson, as Director General, is the chief executive
> officer of APNIC and is employed at the discretion of the
> APNIC Executive Council which is elected by and acts on
> behalf of the membership. The Executive Council, with a
> 3/5th majority, can elect to remove the DG if they feel that
> is appropriate. The membership can, with a 2/3rds majority,
> amend any EC decision. You seem to believe Paul has acted
> inappropriately, yet have not explained why other than to
> insinuate he is traveling inappropriately and/or
> misappropriating funds (treating APNIC as "his gold mine").
> I've gotten no indication that the EC is particularly unhappy
> with Paul's performance of his duties. What exactly "enough"
> are you talking about?
>
> > APNIC's business is to distribute and manage ip addresses
> its not a rocket secience. so why it is costing so much to
> perform this task that Mr Wilson incresed member fees more
> than twice now and he might increase it again. Though this
> fee is neglible compare to the amount we pay for purchaisng
> equipment still is a cost to our business.
>
> >
> > APNIC should be looking at cutting down expneses and
> cutting down staff numbers rather than increasing the fees.
> Once again apnic business is distributing and managing ip
> addresses not managing the world issues travelling around the
> world in business class with members fees.
>
> Historically, APNIC has performed services requested by its
> membership and those services included more than simply
> handing out IP addresses. Providing those services obviously
> cost money. If the membership feels some services are
> superfluous, then they should demand those services be cut.
> Which services do you believe are superfluous?
>
> As for travel policy, it always is controversial,
> particularly when you aren't the one doing the travel. There
> is a balance between cost of travel, benefits the travel
> brings, and the implications on staff. I know when I was DG,
> about the last thing I wanted to do was get on another
> airplane, but the role demanded it. It was, in fact, a
> contributor to my decision to resign. Undoubtedly there can
> be cost savings by reducing the number of meetings APNIC
> staff attend or how the staff attends those meetings, but
> I'll be surprised if there is a massive cost savings.
>
> Regards,
> -drc
>
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