Dear all, How about having 1 rotating seat for economies like Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal and others who control very small voting rights, and who have never had a member elected and cannot do so in the foreseeable future with the same regulations.The seat could go on a round robin basis on pure consensus. Just a thought. Aadit From: ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com To: maem at nic dot ad dot jp; apnic-talk at apnic dot net Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:40:09 +0530 Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections
Hi,
Certainly, I wud clarify the _expression_ in due course of discussions and you are right it's about the composition of EC because of voting pattern/stalk.
In my opinion, “Internet is the leveller” but the table and the process of Elections are distinctively dividing the region- I may be wrong in assuming the same but really dont know that how Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and many such countries can get the representation in current EC structure.
I also don’t know that how can we check a situation like that as "Security Council" if 4 EC members from 3 countries of the same belt i.e. “majority” decides to block, say for example some country wants to have NIR.
Concerns are more on the election process but let other members from the Talk Group also have a look at the table and roles and obligations of EC.
Regards and best wishes,
Naresh Ajwani
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Dear Naresh,
|| The table is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which, coupled || with certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help in || understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the esteemed || APNIC-TALK group:
Here I found a strong _expression_ "visibly glaring aspects" and it seems to be of the line-up of members of the Executive Council since its beginning.
What do you try to mean?
I agree whatever concern can be a start of good discussion. I really encourage apnic-talk for an active discussion.
A tiny point is that some of what you excerpted are not what by-law provides, but shown in http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/organization/structure/apnic-executive-council/EC-roles-and-obligations , which the EC must comply as well, though.
Regards, MAEMURA Akinori, a current EC member
In message <014601cabee4$06830070$13890150$@com> "[apnic-talk] Elections" ""Naresh Ajwani" <ajwaninaresh at gmail dot com>" wrote:
| | | Dear All, | | On the basis of my association and experience during the last few years, I | appreciate and respect the processes and bottom up approach being followed at | APNIC and have been strongly advocating the same at various forums. In the same | spirit, I am confident that the call made for election reforms, at the recently | held meet at KL, would also be looked into with a positive and all inclusive | manner. | | Before any reforms are undertaken, one needs to understand the past scenario and | the composition of EC (given below) which can be a good starting point: | | | Year | EC1 | EC2 | EC4 | EC5 | EC3 | EC6 | EC7 | EC8 | | 1998 | Toru Takahashi , | Japan | Geoff Huston, | Australia | Xing Li, | China | Srisakdi Charmonman, | Thailand | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | | | 1999 | Toru Takahashi , | Japan | Oh Kwang Sok, | Korea | Xing Li, | China | Tommi Chen, | Malaysia | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Geoff Huston, | Australia | | | 2000 | Kazunori Konishi, | Japan | Oh Kwang Sok, | Korea | Xing Li, | China | Tommi Chen, | Malaysia | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Geoff Huston, | Australia | | | 2001 | MAEMURA Akinori, | Japan | Byung-Kyu Kim, | Korea | Xing Li, | China | Qian Hualin, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Geoff Huston, | Australia | | | 2002 | MAEMURA Akinori, | Japan | Byung-Kyu Kim, | Korea | Xing Li, | China | Qian Hualin, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Geoff Huston, | Australia | | | 2003 | MAEMURA Akinori , | Japan | Yong Wan Ju, | Korea | Qian Hualin, | China | Ma Yan, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Geoff Huston, | Australia | | | 2004 | MAEMURA Akinori , | Japan | Yong Wan Ju, | Korea | Qian Hualin, | China | Ma Yan, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Vinh Ngo, | Australia | | | 2005 | MAEMURA Akinori , | Japan | Moo-Ho Billy Cheon, | Korea | Qian Hualin, | China | Ma Yan, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Vinh Ngo, | Australia | | | 2006 | MAEMURA Akinori , | Japan | Moo-Ho Billy Cheon, | Korea | Qian Hualin, | China | Ma Yan, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Vinh Ngo, | Australia | | | 2007 | MAEMURA Akinori , | Japan | Kusumba Sridhar, | India | Wei Mao, | China | Vinh Ngo, | Australia | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Ming-Cheng Liang, | Taiwan | Paul Wilson, | Australia | | 2008 | MAEMURA Akinori, | Japan | Kusumba Sridhar, | India | Wei Mao, | China | Ma Yan, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | Ming-Cheng Liang, | Taiwan | Paul Wilson, | Australia | | 2009 | MAEMURA Akinori, | Japan | Hyun-Joon Kwon, | Korea | Jian Zhang, | China | Ma Yan, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | James Spenceley, | Australia | Paul Wilson, | Australia | | 2010 | MAEMURA Akinori, | Japan | Hyun-Joon Kwon, | Korea | Jian Zhang, | China | Ma Yan, | China | Che-Hoo Cheng, | Hong Kong | Kuo-Wei Wu, | Taiwan | James Spenceley, | Australia | Paul Wilson, | Australia | | | The table is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which, coupled | with certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help in | understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the esteemed | APNIC-TALK group: | | The Executive Council: | . .....the Executive Council shall be composed of seven members elected at | AGMs in accordance with the provisions of by-laws. | . Executive Council members shall serve on the Executive Council in their | personal capacity and shall act in the best interests of the APNIC membership and | not the Member organisation to which that individual belongs. Only one individual | per Member organisation may be elected to sit on the Executive Council. | | Quorum | . A meeting of the Executive Council is duly constituted for all purposes | if at the commencement of the meeting there are present in person not less than | one half of the total number of Council members or their duly authorised | representatives. | | EC Confidentiality | | . All business undertaken by the EC is confidential to the EC. | . All EC members are requested to execute a formal non-disclosure | undertaking with APNIC | . EC members should respect this confidentiality by: | | - not recording EC meetings | - not inviting other members to participate in, or listen into EC | meetings without the prior permission | of the Chair of the EC | - not circulating EC mail messages to any third party without the | express permission of the Chair | of the EC-not divulging any membership information of which they are | aware as an EC member. | | | Regards and best wishes, | | Naresh Ajwani | | | _______________________________________________ | apnic-talk mailing list | apnic-talk at lists dot apnic dot net | http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk | | Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.
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