Re: [apnic-talk] IP address assignment to third party
From: "Anne Lord" <anne at apnic dot net>
"The important thing to remember is that addresses *must*
only be assigned to entities that are receiving Internet connectivity
from you."
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Why do companies get addresses from APNIC but do not get "Internet connectivity" from APNIC ?
What is an "ISP" ?
What about companies that obtain a block of addresses, solely for the purpose of leasing parts of
that block to other companies ?....there may not be any connection other than a check being sent...
http://lacnic.net/en/transition.html
"On 2 September 2002, customers in the emerging LACNIC region will begin to receive invoices from LACNIC. Monies will be payable in
US dollars. All monies collected by LACNIC will be transferred to ARIN. ARIN in turn will return a portion of those monies to LACNIC
to help sustain LACNIC operations. Upon final recognition, the transfer of monies will cease. The target date for the cessation of
money transfer is 18 November 2002."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Lord" <anne at apnic dot net>
To: "paku" <paku123456 at yahoo dot com>
Cc: <apnic-talk at apnic dot net>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] IP address assignment to third party
>
> hi Paku,
>
> > Thanks Anne,
> > But now I am confused more. Cause I make whois query
> > on two three inetnum,,, and all are Allocated Portable
> > assignment.Dose that mean they can assign it to anyone
>
> Maybe it is helpful if I explain the difference between
> allocation and assignment.
>
> An allocation is a range of addresses that can be further
> subdivided. It is given to both customers to address their
> networks and used to address equipment in your own network.
>
> An assignment is a range of addresses actually *in use* on a
> specific network. Assignments must only be made for specific,
> documented purposes and may not be sub-assigned.
>
> There is no such thing as an 'Allocated Portable assignment' as
> mentioned above. There are both assignments and allocations as
> Database entries in the whois database - but they are separate
> entities.
>
> Most allocations will be marked 'Allocated Portable'. That is,
> the custodian has a range of addresses that they can use to
> *assign* to their customers and to themselves for their network infrastructure.
> Those customers *must* have connectivity through the ISP that has
> the range of addresses (allocation). The idea is that the ISP
> aggregates the allocated range into a single prefix announcement, usually
> a /20 (which is the minimum allocation size). The 'portable' tag only applies
> to the /20 range as a whole. It means the custodian of the range
> (say your company) can change upstream provider without
> renumbering.
>
> Any assignments customers receive will be marked in the whois
> database as 'assigned non-portable'. this means that they have
> received assignments from your range (allocation) to be used on an actual
> network. They cannot leave you, choose another provider, and take
> the addresses with them. They are *not* portable. You should enter
> into agreements with your customers which specify that they addresses
> are not portable, should they cancel their service with you.
>
> This whole idea is in place to support the hierarchical aggregation
> of routing information. This is to date, the only effective way to
> make the Internet scale, and is critical. It is known as CIDR (classless
> inter-domain routing).
>
> > other than their customers(assign,nonportable)???
>
> > Suppose I am apnic member and get /20 Allocated
> > Portable. Than can I assign some space outout
> > it(/22)to my other organisations(my sisterconcern
> > companies but not my customers. And using others
>
> No - you should *definately* be assigning it to your customers. You can
> also assign it to your sister companies but only *IF* they obtain
> Internet connectivity from you.
>
> > internet serices) and its non-comercial.
>
> Whether you are commerical or not has no bearing on where the addresses
> are assigned. The important thing to remember is that addresses *must*
> only be assigned to entities that are receiving Internet connectivity
> from you.
>
> Does that help? Please dont hesitate to contact me or the helpdesk
> if any of this is not clear.
>
> Kind regards,
> Anne
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Anne Lord, Manager, Policy Liaison <anne at apnic dot net>
> Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3858 3100
> http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3858 3199
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
>
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