Re: [apnic-talk] [a proposal agendum] simple assignment procedure of len
Philip,
Thank you for your comments.
At 00:20 00/02/11 +1000, Philip Smith wrote:
>>---
>>Title: Proposal for simple assignment procedure of length /29 or
>> longer prefix
>>Applicant: Yoshiyuki Ezura, IP working group, JPNIC
>>
>>
>>- Introduction
>>
>>RFC2050 and APNIC's policy define that ISP's customers must exhibit
>>very precise projection for their one year address usages and the
>>justifications for it. This rule is even applied to the prefix which
>>is /29 or /30.
>>
>>/29s and /30s are widely used in Japan by personal users now, which
>>costs too much for both the applicants and Internet Registry. It may
>>impede the sound growth of the Internet.
>
>I'm curious about the "impede the sound growth" comment. How? I don't see the link between address space utilisation for home users and sound growth. The sound growth of the Internet usually refers to the core infrastrucuture of the Internet, not the edge...
ISPs need many costs to evaluate too much assignment, then they may
not be able to expand their business. So I think, "impede the sound
growth" may occur to the Internet.
>In what circumstances are personal users using /29s and /30s? Dialup, leased lines, ADSL, Cable? Hopefully your presentation can clarify this...
In Japan, circumstances in which personal users use /29s and /30s
are mainly leased lines. Then those are services that is shared
bandwidths with more than one user in the ISPs network. However
the percentage of ADSL and Cable may rapid increase in the near
future.
>>- Proposal
>>
>>We propose a simple procedure in which applicants don't need the
>>network detail information in the case when a prefix is longer than
>>/28. It seems to be reasonable since in the case of /29s, three hosts,
>>for example one gateway router and two hosts on the segment, is
>>enough to satisfy the RFC2050 criteria.
>
>Is this administrative ease? One agenda item from Ruri Hiromi says "b. Registries shall not regard administrative ease on address assignments", so I detect a possible contradiction...?
If an address assignment is enough to satisfy the RFC2050 criteria,
it is not administrative ease, is it ? Then almost all assignment
of /29s may be satisfy the RFC2050 criteria. So I think, this simple
assignment procedure is a boundary of administrative ease or not.
>>- Reasons or Advantages
>>
>>We at JPNIC held a trial operation from March 1998 until January 2000,
>>that didn't require the network detail information in the case of when
>>assigning /29 and longer, to encourage assignment of longer prefixes
>>and preservation of the IP address space. Now in Japan, 41% of all
>>assignments is /29 and longer and 87% is /28 and longer.
>>
>>We believe that trial operation was successful in address space
>>preservation and that this contributes a great reduction in resources
>>needed for address assignment at JPNIC, LIR and personal end-users as well.
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>
>Hopefully your presentation at APRICOT will clarify these points...
>
>best wishes!
>
>philip
>--
Best Regards,
Yoshiyuki Ezura
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