[apnic-talk] RE: Meeting in Geneva and IFWP
Hello Dave,
Laina BCCed her reply based on my complains. These crazy cross post the
planet messages on so called "Internet Governance" issues are getting really
out of hand. Replying to a message with every list in the BCC is one way for
funnel the discussion down to a specific community vs adding to the cross
post messages.
My fingers are getting really tired of hitting the delete key. ;-(.
Barry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-apple at apnic dot net [mailto:owner-apple at apnic dot net]On Behalf Of
> Dave Crocker
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 3:13 PM
> To: laina at singnet dot com dot sg
> Cc: apia-members at apia dot org; apple at apnic dot net; apnic-talk at apnic dot net
> Subject: RE: Meeting in Geneva and IFWP
>
>
> Puan Laina,
>
> Since your note to Patrik was also copied to one of the AP
> mailing lists, I
> think it important to also include them in responses. I'm not clear what
> your intent in using BCC was, but I think it essential to have all sides
> discussed openly.
>
> At 12:07 AM 6/23/98 +0000, laina at singnet dot com dot sg wrote:
> >and that is good. The IFWP effort is to try and consolidate
> views from the
> >various meetings and more importantly to try and set guidelines
> acceptable
> >to everyone on how the organisation makes decisions, not to make
> decisions
>
> This suggests a basic view that a brand new organization is being created.
> It is rare that an established, essential, operational structure which has
> been working well for 15 years should be replaced in its entirety, as if
> there were no history. Perhaps you do intend to view the new effort as an
> evolution of the established IANA. Certainly there is broad
> agreement that
> such evolution is necessary and appropriate.
>
> Over the history of this topic, many people have claimed a concern for
> stability of the Internet. The best way to assure stability is
> to "evolve"
> the existing, stable activity, rather than approach the task as starting
> new. The best way to ensure IN-stability is design a brand new
> organization and to design it by committee.
>
> I hope that no one approaches this task as an academic experiment in
> sociology but, instead, remembers that the administrative heart of the
> Internet rests on this work.
>
> >at the meeting. There are many policy and legal issues on due process,
> >transparency, accountability, dispute settlement etc. I
> understand that the
> >DC meeting is driven by a Professor of Law, Dr Frankel, who is a neutral
> >party with academic interest and experience in structural building of
>
> Based on the early announcements, the meeting was driven by Tony Rutkowski
> and NSI. They recruited Dr. Frankel as its head, rather than Dr.
> Frankel's
> "driving" the meeting. Perhaps you have knowledge of details that suggest
> a different view of Dr. Frankel's role?
>
> For that matter, it is rare, indeed, for anyone to be truly neutral and
> Tony's own description of Dr. Frankel made clear that there are strong
> views of theoretical solutions supported. (Given Tony's long and vigorous
> opposition to the idea of a "trust" it seems ironic that that is
> apparently
> one of Dr. Frankel's preferences.)
>
> d/
>
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