[apnic-talk] The second of two

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Subject: [apnic-talk] The second of two
From: Eric Weisberg <weisberg at texoma dot net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:29:23 -0500
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Posted-date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:29:02 -0500 (CDT)
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Subject:
          Re: [ispc-list] US Domain Future Developments (fwd)
     Date:
          Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:09:43 -0400
     From:
          "Bruce Koehler" <winnt at flash dot net>
 Reply-To:
          ispc-list at ispc dot org
       To:
          <ispc-list at ispc dot org>

YES!  If the FBI or other investigative agency suspects that the sender or
receiver is 'dangerous,' (criminal or even politically) they will get the
USPS to let them inspect, and even open and read the person's mail (this is
after getting a court order where even the individual is kept unaware).
With the NSA a court order is NOT required if the individual's
communications were come across in 'casual intercept.'  Given the past, I
would not doubt that they are monitoring IP Header information and
targeting
specific individuals = they have the capability = and they were doing in
other areas of communication.  The NSA acts as a government 'broker of
information' = agencies send them requests of "We need information on this
individual" or "We need information on every person discussing..." and NSA
complies within their capabilities.  This is a very dangerous situation,
and
I will be pulling off the internet myself, the same as I pulled from my
cell
phone and pager...  There is a large possibility that we are being
watched...  (or why such a big fuss over a back door to encryption?  I
understood EXACTLY what NSA was concerned about!)

Bruce

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