RE: [apnic-talk] APNIC and APRICOT
On Sun, 17 May 1998, Jim Fleming wrote:
> On Sunday, May 17, 1998 7:53 AM, Chang, Wai-Leong[SMTP:cwl at singnet dot com dot sg] wrote:
> @
> @I have a suggestion. Join them in organising the 99 seminar/workshop and
> @you will know the details then. Many ISPs in the region had benefited
> @tremendously from APRICOT and for about US$500 per person, that is
> @knowledge for a song. I have attended the ones held in Singapore and HK.
> @Great stuff....
> @
>
> You are missing the point. I am sure it is great stuff. With
> 99 seminars and workshops it should be able to pay for
> itself. Taxes from IPv4 address allocations should not be
> used to subsidize that operation. Does APRICOT plan to
> pay APNIC back ?
>
> Also, if people are "employed" by both APNIC and APRICOT
> money can be transferred from APNIC to APRICOT to pay
> them. This can create a false impression on the books of
> APNIC because people might assume that people are paid
> a token salary when they are really receiving compensation
> via money taken out of APNIC and used to subsidize other
> activities, like APRICOT.
You are missing my point. I am saying go ask them direct. You will not get
any answer here.
>
> Besides the money there is the influence that comes with
> IPv4 address allocations. Are companies told they will get
> IP allocations if they support APRICOT ? Is that why APRICOT
> is a success ? Are IPv4 addresses obtained from the
> U.S. Government being used to influence other activities ?
>
Obviously, you have not attended any of the APRICOT sessions. Its success
has nothing to do with IP address. On the contrary, it will be a failure
if it is only about IP address. I do know for one that there is nothing of
the "implied" situation you have above.
> Furthermore, some of the people that have been paid to
> participate in APRICOT are also influential in the U.S.
> in making sure that APNIC gets IPv4 addresses. Do we
> now have a situation where IPv4 addresses are sent to
> APNIC where they are "sold/leased" and then the money
> is transferred to APRICOT to pay for these people to fly
> to the Asia/Pacific region for meetings and seminars ?
>
> If this is the case, then IPv4 addresses are being bartered
> for other goods, services, trips, etc. This is not something
> U.S. Government contractors should be doing in my opinion.
>
Again, you will not get any of your questions answered here. Write to them
direct and you may get some feedback.
>
> -
> Jim Fleming
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>
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