[apnic-talk] Re: [JPNIC intl-wg 224] Why is APNIC Moving ?
Maruyama-san,
>I think the following points were explained in previous APNIC
>meetings:
>
>1. It is rather easy to establish a non-profit organization in AU.
This was not one of the considerations of the search undertaken for a new
location for APNIC. I actually have no idea how easy it is to establish a
non-profit organization in AU.
>2. APNIC will probably gain tax exempt status in AU.
APNIC (the Seychelles company) has already obtained tax exempt status. We
cannot apply for tax exempt status for APNIC Pty Ltd until all the legal
documents have been finalized (thus the interest in speed). I should
probably note that major changes to APNIC structure may result in
significant delays in getting the tax exempt status from the Australian Tax
Office where as keeping the existing structure would make getting the tax
exemption "a non-issue" (according to our advisors in AU, KPMG Peat Marwick).
>3. The cost for maintaining APNIC office will be reasonable in AU.
More specifically, the cost of doing business in Australia (taking into
account various factors including office rental, utilities, telecoms, cost
of living, and in particular, taxation on APNIC's surplus) was found to be
the least expensive.
In addition, there were issues related to ease of obtaining visas,
transparency of laws and business practices, quality of life issues,
Internet connectivity issues, governmental policies with respect to
information/censorship, and a few others I can't think of off hand.
>I think we must recheck these points in the current discussion of
>legal documents.
>From my perspective, these would appear to be unrelated to the legal
documents, however that is only my opinion. As mentioned in my previous
mail, the membership is free to raise, discuss, alter, etc. any aspect of
APNIC at their choosing.
>>Do regional registries generally move when one
>>person wants to change jobs or careers ?
>I'm afraid this is offensive for Anne and David.
Yes, it is, but it _very_ typical of Fleming -- always accusation by
insinuation -- and one of the reasons I filter him out.
Please note that my filters work on ANY header line containing a reference
to Fleming or his domain name, thus if you wish me to respond to mail that
is in some way referring to something Fleming has written, please make sure
you remove references to him in the headers. My apologies for the
inconvenience, but I have found it best.
I should also note that my silence in response to Fleming's accusations,
insinuations, and/or flights of fancy should in no way be taken as tacit
agreement (or even disagreement, though it is more likely :-)), but merely
that I haven't seen his messages.
>I believe they
>were/are/will be willing to contribute APNIC, and they thought AU a
>good place for it.
Yes. My recommendation was based on the research I undertook over a period
of 6 months and the results of which were presented in the Kuala Lumpur
APNIC meeting. My recommendation was submitted to the Executive Council
who voted to accept the recommendation.
>>What happens to all of the people and their needs
>>in Japan, Korea, China, etc. ?
>To me, this seems to be an endless dispute. What happens to all of the
>people and their needs in India, Iran and Pakistan, in the case APNIC
>office stays in Japan?
Or people in Japan for that matter :-).
>--- I don't like this kind of meaningless
>arguing. APNIC must be equal and must maintain good relationship with
>all of the members regardless of the distance from its office.
Very true.
>For
>this purpose, I think it's crucially important for APNIC staffs to
>take advantage of every opportunities for communication to members,
>not merely sitting in front of the terminals.
This is one area I believe (since I'm no longer DG, can't be sure... :-))
APNIC will be concentrating on in the future. It is planned that APNIC
staff members will hold training classes for members in their countries and
this will provide a good opportunity for the members to actually meet in
person (as opposed to over the net) the people that they will be dealing
with. I should note that I feel this is much more of a requirement in this
region as opposed to Europe and/or North America and that I was slow to
pick up on this. I wish to apologize for not meeting more of the
membership in person.
Regards,
-drc
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