What at least some parts of the Indian Internet community - including
apparently the Indian Department of Telecommunications - want, is not
the same as other parts of the APNIC community want, judging from the
feedback on this Proposition. Even if the view of all Indian APNIC
members is unanimous on this, this unanimity is not shared by other
APNIC members.
In my opinion, we shud not generalize a few objections or a few support and at least term as one block or other.
Naresh,
Because Policy is by definition mandatory and inflexible - they say in
effect "One size fits all. This is the size. Wear it. Don't complain, we
don't care: this is the Policy".
Administrative arrangements should be flexible and adaptable.
In my view - and I write policy for a living - policy should dictate
management practices as infrequently as possible. It is, I believe, far
better if policy simply puts the boundaries around the management
arrangements, and lets managers get on with managing within those
boundaries.
What at least some parts of the Indian Internet community - including
apparently the Indian Department of Telecommunications - want, is not
the same as other parts of the APNIC community want, judging from the
feedback on this Proposition. Even if the view of all Indian APNIC
members is unanimous on this, this unanimity is not shared by other
APNIC members.
Therefore, an administrative arrangement that suits the objective of
proponents on Prop-100 would appear to be a more pragmatic approach. Not
the least reason is because it appears to me quite unlikely that
consensus can be reached in favour of Prop-100 for APNIC 32.
Regards
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Naresh Ajwani [mailto:ajwaninaresh@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:18 p.m.
To: HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Cc: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Summary of discussion prop-100
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Dear Mike,
I believe that Prop-100 embodies the attitude that IPv6 address space,
like IPv4 address space, is a scarce commodity, and that a
prophylactic approach is required to ensure that it won't run out for
nations with fast developing needs for internet-connected devices.
This is, in my view, an incorrect belief framework, and should not be
incorporated into APNIC Policy.
First of all, it's about reserving and that too for all economies and
in my understanding, it's a thought only that is giving credibility to
prop-100.
The mandate with APNIC is of over 50 economies and shud be visible to
all by such policies.
On the other hand, if the APNIC staff were to adopt, as an
administrative guideline, that all Indian IPv6 address space requests
were to be satisfied from a particular contiguous /16, I would have no
objection.
If we are okay with it administratively and for one economy, why can't
it be a policy and for all economies in AP?
Regards and best wishes,
Naresh Ajwani
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:47, "HENDERSON MIKE, MR"
MICHAEL.HENDERSON@nzdf.mil.nz wrote:
I was opposed to version 1 of this proposition.
I am less opposed to version 2, but still do not support the
proposition.
I believe that Prop-100 embodies the attitude that IPv6 address space,
like IPv4 address space, is a scarce commodity, and that a
prophylactic approach is required to ensure that it won't run out for
nations with fast developing needs for internet-connected devices.
This is, in my view, an incorrect belief framework, and should not be
incorporated into APNIC Policy.
On the other hand, if the APNIC staff were to adopt, as an
administrative guideline, that all Indian IPv6 address space requests
were to be satisfied from a particular contiguous /16, I would have no
objection. That would, however, be an administrative decision, not a
Policy directive.
I don't actually think that would be effective in anything other than
the very short term, for the reasons that others have put forward on
this list.
For example, I believe that the APNIC staff would receive requests
from Indian-based members for assignments and/or allocations
specifically outside the "Indian /16", for good technical reasons.
Regards
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net
[mailto:sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Andy Linton
Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011 10:40 a.m.
To: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
Subject: [sig-policy] Summary of discussion prop-100
My apologies for this being delayed. Yesterday was my first time
through the Policy SIG meeting as Chair and this got missed.
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prop-100: National IP Address Plan - Allocation of country-wide IP
address blocks
______________________________________________________________________
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Dear SIG members
Below is a summary of discussions on the proposal to date. We
encourage you to continue discussions on the mailing list before the
Policy SIG.
Regards,
Andy and Terence
Proposal summary
This proposal calls for adequate IPv6 address space per economy be
reserved for future allocations to organizations and stakeholders
within that economy.
Discussion statistics
Version 1 posted to Policy SIG mailing list: 2 August 2011
Version 2 posted to Policy SIG mailing list: 30 August 2011
Number of posts since proposal first posted: 108
Number of people participating in discussions: 34
Summary of discussion to date
- There was very little consensus on this proposal during mailing
list discussion with the majority of participants either
strongly
supporting or strongly opposing the proposal. Very few if any
fell in between.
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