Hi Jordi, Aftab,

 

I have summarised the process APNIC uses to add/remove prefixes from APNIC AS0 ROA. This may help explain why you did not find some of the prefixes in AS0 ROA.

 

Once a prefix is marked as 'reserved' it is added into AS0 ROA after 7 days to cause as little disruption as possible and avoid any inadvertent actions. Where possible, we also aggregate the prefixes that are added into AS0 ROA. When a prefix is delegated to a Member, it is removed from AS0 within 5 minute window.

 

As per our implementation of APNIC EC resolution 2021-09, any historical resources that are not maintained under an APNIC account will be removed from whois and marked as reserved on 1 January, 2023. 7 days after that, those reserved prefixes will be added into AS0 ROA.

 

Thanks

Vivek

 

From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy <sig-policy@lists.apnic.net>
Date: Wednesday, 7 September 2022 at 6:51 pm
To: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net <sig-policy@lists.apnic.net>
Subject: [sig-policy] Re: prop-147-v001: Historical Resources Management

Question for the staff on this. Is the AS0 proposal not sufficient to comply with Aftab observation, or it is just something in the backlog of pending secretariat activities, or what is the reason for that?

 

 

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 30/8/22, 3:48, "Aftab Siddiqui" <aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com> escribió:

 

Hi Vivek,

 

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 18:15, Vivek Nigam <vivek@apnic.net> wrote:

Hi Aftab,

 

APNIC creates RPKI ROAs with origin AS0 for all undelegated address space (marked as “Available” and “Reserved” in the delegated-apnic-extended-latest stats file. It may be worth noting that APNIC publishes these AS0 ROAs in a different Trust Anchor (AS0 TAL) and recommends its Members use APNIC AS0 TAL as a routing information service only.

 

https://www.apnic.net/community/security/resource-certification/apnic-limitations-of-liability-for-rpki-2/

 

 

That is incorrect, there are more than 160 IPv4 prefixes (I haven't checked v6 yet) which are marked as either "reserved" or "available" in the APNIC delegation file and they don't exist in AS-0 ROA. So there must be some policy which is in place. 

 

delegate file: 2.3|apnic|20220830|158240||20220829|+1000

AS0 ROA: SigningTime:    2022-08-30T01:10:15Z


Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

 

 


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