Owen,

But who determines 'if they need one' ?  Them, or you (plural)?

I believe they should be able to determine that they need one and be able to get one based on that decision - not told how they should be doing their upstream connectivity at any particular time.


...Skeeve

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On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:

> On Feb 24, 2015, at 22:47 , Raphael Ho <raphael.ho@ap.equinix.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I¹m having an offline discussion with Aftab, basically the issue he¹s
> trying to address is that new ISPs in small countries/cities may not meet
> the day 1 requirements for an ASN, but however should be eligible since
> they will require an ASN to peer/multihome at some point in the future
> (which I do agree)

What is the disadvantage for them to get the ASN later, when they actually need it?

> Currently they all have to "commit fraud² in order to get an ASN, and I
> guess some religion takes that more seriously than others.

They only have to commit fraud if they are determined to get an ASN before they need one.

> Would we the proposal be acceptable if we reworded the proposal to say
> something on the lines of
>
> ³Eligible LIRs with APNIC Assigned Portable addresses are also eligible
> for as ASN²?

I think “an ASN” rather than “as ASN”, but I’d need to better understand why they need one
ahead of time. What’s wrong with getting the ASN when you need it?

Owen


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