Hi Jordi,

 

My reading of the actual policy is that it actually enforces the multihoming “in a reasonable future”.

An organization will also be eligible if it can demonstrate that it will
meet the above criteria upon receiving an ASN (or within a reasonably
short time thereafter).

I still believe it is not enforcement. Because this statement came out of the policy change which I co-authored :) 
 

So, the question I’m trying to solve is what if I can’t or don’t want to multihome? I’m an SME, I want to have my own IPv6 PI announced with my own ASN, however I’m fine not multihoming.


I totally agree with your point of view and if you read the first version [1] of my proposal back in 2015, it was not asking for multihoming requirement at all but community suggested that there are not enough evidence to prove that someone will get an ASN and Address space and won't multihome in the future. You have to show intention as part of the application requirement. Previously, you were suppose to provide ASN details where you WILL multihome which was remove after prop-114. 

[1] - https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/prop-114/assets/prop-114-v001.txt
 


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: <sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net> en nombre de Aftab Siddiqui <aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com>
Fecha: jueves, 24 de enero de 2019, 2:28
Para: Policy SIG <sig-policy@apnic.net>
Asunto: Re: [sig-policy] prop-128-v001: Multihoming not required for ASN

 

Hi Jordi,

We updated this requirement after a year-long discussion within the community. It doesn't enforce you to multi-home but suggests you should in the future. I don't see this as a roadblock in receiving PI address space. 

 

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

 

 

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:14 AM Bertrand Cherrier <b.cherrier@micrologic.nc> wrote:

Dear SIG members,

The proposal "prop-128-v001: Multihoming not required for ASN" has been
sent to the Policy SIG for review.

It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 47 in
Daejeon, South Korea on Wednesday, 27 February 2019.

We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
before the meeting.

The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:

· Do you support or oppose this proposal?

· Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, tell the community about your situation.

· Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?

· Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?

· What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?

Information about this proposal is available at:

Regards

Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs


prop-128-v001: Multihoming not required for ASN


Proposers: Jordi Palet Martínez
jordi.palet@theipv6company.com

1. Problem Statement

When the ASN assignment policy was originally designed, the reliability
of networks was not so good as today. So, at that time, it was making
sense to make sure that and ASN holder is multihomed.

However, today this is not necessarily a reasonable requirement, and
even in some cases, some networks may require an ASN and not willing
to be multihomed (because the cost, or remote locations that have only
a single upstream, etc.), and their SLA requirements don’t need that
redundancy.

The deployment of IPv6 also increase the need for organizations which
are not ISPs, to obtain IPv6 PI in order to have stable addresses,
and in that situation, ideally, they should announce their PI space
with their own ASN. In most cases, they don’t have to be multihomed.

2. Objective of policy change

To ensure that organizations which have their own routing policy and
the need to interconnect with other organizations, can do it.

Interconnect is used here with the commonly understood meaning of
establishing a connection between two (administratively) separate
networks.

3. Situation in other regions

ARIN and LACNIC don’t require multihoming. RIPE requires it. AfriNIC has
a policy equivalent to APNIC, but I’m submitting a proposal similar to
this one to change it as well as in the case of RIPE.

4. Proposed policy solution

Current Policy text

12.1. Evaluation of eligibility

An organization is eligible for an ASN assignment if:
- it is currently multihomed, or
- it holds previously-allocated provider independent address space and
intends to multihome in the future.

An organization will also be eligible if it can demonstrate that it will
meet the above criteria upon receiving an ASN (or within a reasonably
short time thereafter).

Requests for ASNs under these criteria will be evaluated using the
guidelines described in RFC1930 'Guidelines for the creation, selection
and registration of an Autonomous System' (AS).

Proposed text

12.1. Evaluation of eligibility

An organization is eligible for an ASN assignment if:
- it is multihomed or
- has the need to interconnect with other AS.

An organization will also be eligible if it can demonstrate that it will
meet any
of the above criteria upon receiving an ASN (or within a reasonably
short time thereafter).

Requests for ASNs under these criteria will be evaluated using the
guidelines described in RFC1930 'Guidelines for the creation, selection
and registration of
an Autonomous System' (AS).

5. Advantages / Disadvantages

Advantages:
Fulfilling the objectives above indicated.

Disadvantages:
None foreseen.

6. Impact on resource holders

None.

7. References

https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#five
https://www.lacnic.net/683/2/lacnic/
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-679

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