Tsurumaki-san, thank you for your feedback from the Japanese Open Policy Forum on prop-120 and 123 

Cordialement,
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Le 14 févr. 2018 à 13:58, Satoru Tsurumaki <satoru.tsurumaki@g.softbank.co.jp> a écrit :

Dear Colleagues,

I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Japan Open Policy Forum Steering Team.

I would like to share a feedback in our community for prop-123,
based on a meeting we organised on 31st Jan to discuss these proposals.
So please note that these comments are not reflect the discussion
after 31 Jan on this mailing list.


Many opposing comments were expressed on the proposal with reasons below.

- Since all policies are applied retroactively, there is no reason
  to exclude it only for prop-116

- Even if the proposal aims to relieve the entities those who made
  genuine M&A, it would not be able to be distinguished from
  intentional M&A for receiving a large number of IPv4 address.

Best Regards,

Satoru Tsurumaki
JPOPF-ST


2018-01-26 12:27 GMT+09:00 Bertrand Cherrier <b.cherrier@micrologic.nc>:
Dear SIG members,

The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
been sent to the Policy SIG for review.

It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.

We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
before the meeting.

The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:

 - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
 - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
   tell the community about your situation.
 - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
 - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
 - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
   effective?

Information about this proposal is available at:

   http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123

Regards

Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs

https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt 
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prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy

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Proposer:        Alex Yang
                 yangpf6@126.com


1. Problem statement
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Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in 
the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep 
2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8 
block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.

However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017. 
Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The 
community was not aware of the restriction when they received those 
resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to 
transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered, 
there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC 
Whois data.


2. Objective of policy change
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To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.


3. Situation in other regions
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No such situation in other regions.


4. Proposed policy solution
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“Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)
which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment” 
should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14 
Sep 2017.


5. Advantages / Disadvantages
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Advantages:

- Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC 
  Whois data correct.


Disadvantages:

None.


6. Impact on resource holders
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Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources 
were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.



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