On Feb 27, 2015, at 00:22, Dean Pemberton <dean@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:

I'm sure Skeeve also thinks that organisations should be able to get all the IP addresses they might ever need all on day one.
I'm sure he even knows a company who could arrange that for them.

Well our IPv4 policies are explicitly designed to not provide all the IPv4 addresses an organization needs.  Where as with IPv6 that is at least possible, maybe not forever, but there is a goal of 5 to 10 years or more for an initial allocation.

Lets see where the community thinks this should go.  
It still sounds like unlimited ASNs for anyone who thinks they might like to have them.
Great business for anyone clipping the ticket on the transaction.

Now that we that have 4 billion ASNs, maybe we should reexamine our policy goals for ASNs, at least compared to when we only had 65 thousand ASNs.  

If we are willing to give an organization a routing slot with IPv4 or IPv6 PA or PI address block, why wouldn't we be willing to give them a ASN too?  I would want them to provide additional justification why they need a second ASN, but the mere fact we gave then a PA or PI address block is probably sufficient justification for their first ASN.  

The reverse is also probably also true, if we are NOT willing to give them a routing slot, we probably should NOT be willing to give them an ASN either, at least without additional justification like multi-homing.

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