All,

I¹m having an offline discussion with Aftab, basically the issue he¹s
trying to address is that new ISPs in small countries/cities may not meet
the day 1 requirements for an ASN, but however should be eligible since
they will require an ASN to peer/multihome at some point in the future
(which I do agree)

Currently they all have to "commit fraud² in order to get an ASN, and I
guess some religion takes that more seriously than others.

Would we the proposal be acceptable if we reworded the proposal to say
something on the lines of

³Eligible LIRs with APNIC Assigned Portable addresses are also eligible
for as ASN²?

This would cover the use case without opening the floodgates.

Thoughts?

Raf


On 25/2/15 2:33 pm, "Dean Pemberton" <dean@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:

>Members potentially lying on their resource application forms is not
>sufficient justification to remove all the rules entirely.
>If someone lies on their a countries visa application about a previous
>conviction for example, thats not justification for the entire country
>to just give up issuing visas.
>
>It sounds like you are accusing the hostmasters of doing an inadequate
>job of checking policy compliance of member applications for
>resources.  Perhaps this is something that you'd like to take up with
>them directly rather than proposing that we remove all the rules in
>the existing policies.
>
>
>Regards,
>Dean
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>On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Aftab Siddiqui
><aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Guangliang for the update,
>>
>>>
>>> According to the current APNIC ASN policy document, the definition of
>>> multihomed is as below.
>>>
>>> http://www.apnic.net/policy/asn-policy#3.4
>>>
>>> 3.4 Multihomed
>>>
>>> A multi-homed AS is one which is connected to more than one other AS.
>>>An
>>> AS also qualifies as multihomed if it is connected to a public Internet
>>> Exchange Point.
>>>
>>> In the ASN request form, you will be asked to provide the estimate ASN
>>> implementation date, two peer AS numbers and their contact details. It
>>>is
>>> also acceptable if your network only connect to an IXP.
>>
>>
>> So what if I only have one upstream provider and doesn't have a Public
>>IX in
>> place? What If I just whois any member from my country and provide AS
>> numbers and contact details publicly available? Do you check back after
>>3
>> months that the AS you provided to the applicant is actually peering
>>with
>> the ones they mentioned in the application? Do you send email
>>notification
>> to those contacts provided in the application that XYZ has mentioned
>>your AS
>> to be peer with in future?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aftab A. Siddiqui.
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