We’re talking about a single /24.
Use it for whatever research value it has and then put it out to
pasture along with the rest of this antiquated addressing.
My $0.02.
On May 21, 2015, at 12:45 , David Huberman
David.Huberman@microsoft.com wrote:
Dean, <>
Thank you for your excellent reply.
I am all for working together to identify a way to get 1.2.3.0/24
into the hands of a network operator who can do good things with it.
The prefix is trapped in APNIC right now with nowhere to go, and
it’s time to set it free.
More ideas everyone! We can have a great discussion about it, here
and in Jakarta.
/david
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Oops wrong button :)
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From: Dean Pemberton <dean@internetnz.net.nz
mailto:dean@internetnz.net.nz>
Date: Friday, 22 May 2015
Subject: [sig-policy] Idea for 1.2.3.0/24 http://1.2.3.0/24
To: David Huberman <David.Huberman@microsoft.com
mailto:David.Huberman@microsoft.com>
Hi David, Everyone
If APNIC were to just sell this off then there is no saying that it
won't just appear in some large providers NAT pool.
I've just visited some providers who wanted address space so much
they would probably bid for this just to have 1.2.3.4 as a flag to
wave and the rest of the /24 just sits in their CGN. That would be
terrible for anyone whose sessions were associated with these
addresses.
I won't elaborate here but there are even potential security issues
related with a malicious actor being able to redirect this about of
traffic.
Any of these would be a net loss to the Internet community.
So how can we turn this into a net win?
I'm not that concerned about the money. Good things can be done with
auction proceeds, but good ideas can come from people without money
too.
For example what if an individual has a great idea to use 1.2.3.4 for
the common good but would never have an ability to win an auction?
They might also have no ability to purchase infrastructure to make
the idea happen.
Nat Morris for eg runs a great any cast DNS service helping lots of
people but I'm pretty sure his wife and dog would notice him going up
against large corps in an auction.
What about this.
We take suggestions for the best 'public good' use of 1.2.3.4.
For each of the ideas, let the community show support "a thumbs
up/down" if you will. Also for each of them allow organisations to
pitch to deliver it.
Market it as recycling trash even :)
This way the good idea can come from anyone in any part of the world
as long as it benefits all internet users. And large corporations can
still get some exposure by offering to make it happen.
Imagine the photoshoot. Smart up-and-coming engineer from an LDC
alongside a large multinational helping APNIC to make a difference to
us all.
Thoughts?
On Friday, 22 May 2015, David Huberman <David.Huberman@microsoft.com
<>> wrote:
Hello Policy SIG,
I have an idea for 1.2.3.0/24 http://1.2.3.0/24 I would like to
share with you before submitting a policy proposal.
Prop-109 properly directed APNIC to use 1.0.0.0/24
http://1.0.0.0/24 and 1.1.1.0/24 http://1.1.1.0/24 for research
purposes. That leaves one more significant prefix to deal
with:1.2.3.0/24 http://1.2.3.0/24. It is significant because it
contains the IP address 1.2.3.4.
1.2.3.4 is a desirable IP address. It can be used in all sorts of
very interesting applications. It also receives an enormous amount
of “junk” traffic every day, so it requires a fairly hefty
infrastructure just to start routing it.
My idea is that APNIC should make this prefix available to all
parties who want it. To decide who gets it, I propose an AUCTION
where all proceeds go to a charitable endeavor (perhaps a future
APNIC Foundation). As the potential author of such a proposal, and
as the IP address manager at Microsoft Corporation, I will guarantee
that neither I nor my company will participate in any way in such an
auction. This proposal is not to benefit me or my company. It is to
give the prefix out to a network operator who wants it, in return for
money given to charity.
This is a new idea, and is not fully thought out. So I wanted to
post it, get some reactions, and improve the idea. (Or abandon it if
people do not like it.)
Thank you.
David
David R Huberman
Principal, Global IP Addressing
Microsoft Corporation
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