Dear Tomohiro,

 

Thanks for reviewing your policy proposal prop-116. I have some questions would like to have your clarifications.

 

4. Proposed policy solution

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In the case of transfers due to M&A, merged organization can have

up to /22 IPv4 address in the 103/8 block in principle. If there

are technical reasons such as all address is used in separate networks

and announced from multiple ASes, merged organization can keep them.

Otherwise, the 103/8 IPv4 address more than /22 must return to APNIC

to allocate to another organization using final /8 policy.

 

Questions:

  1. Will M&A be subject to two year limitation as well?
  2. If a member has not received a /22 delegation from the 103/8 block but received a /22 IPv4 transfer from the 103/8 block, can this member still qualify for a /22 delegation from the 103/8 from APNIC?
  3. If we allow transfers based on announced by different ASes, should we request them to return the resources if they announce by same AS after transfer?

 

Some of the statements in Advantages/Disadvantages and Impact sessions appear to be outdated by the change to a two-year limit.

 

Best regards,

 

Guangliang Pan (Benny)

Registration Services Manager, APNIC

Email: gpan@apnic.net

SIP: gpan@voip.apnic.net

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From: sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Sumon Ahmed Sabir
Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2017 9:39 PM
To: sig-policy@apnic.net
Subject: [sig-policy] Revised prop-116-v003: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in the final /8 block

 

Dear SIG members

A new version of the proposal "prop-116: Prohibit to transfer IPv4
addresses in the final /8 block" has been sent to the Policy SIG for
review.

Information about earlier versions is available from:

http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-116

You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal:

  - Do you support or oppose the proposal?
  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?

Please find the text of the proposal below.

Kind Regards,

Masato and Sumon






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prop-116-v003: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in the final /8 block

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Proposer:       Tomohiro Fujisaki
                
fujisaki@syce.net


1. Problem statement
--------------------

There are a lot of transfers of IPv4 address blocks from 103/8
happening, both within the APNIC region and among RIRs.

Then number of transfer from 103/8 block are about 200, which is
about 12% of the total number of transfers. This looks so high
since APNIC manages about 40/8.

And based on the information provided by APNIC secretariat, number
of transfers from the 103/8 block are increasing year by year.

Updated by APNIC Secretariat on 27 January 2017:

1) M&A transfers containing 103/8 space

+------+-----------+-----------+-
|      |   Total   | Number of |
| Year | Transfers |   /24s    |
+------+-----------+-----------+-
| 2011 |         3 |         12 |
| 2012 |        10 |         46 |
| 2013 |        18 |         66 |
| 2014 |       126 |        498 |
| 2015 |       147 |        573 |
| 2016 |        63 |        239 |
+------+-----------+------------+-

2) Market transfers containing 103/8 space

+------+-----------+-----------+
|      |   Total   | Number of |
| Year | Transfers |   /24s    |
+------+-----------+-----------+
| 2011 |         2 |         2 |
| 2012 |        21 |        68 |
| 2013 |        16 |        61 |
| 2014 |        25 |        95 |
| 2015 |        67 |       266 |
| 2016 |       103 |       394 |
+------+-----------+-----------+

And also, transfers from the 103/8 block include:
  - Take place within 1 year of distribution, or
  - Multiple blocks to a single organization in case of beyond 1 year.

Further, there is a case where a single organization have received 12
blocks transfers from 103 range.

see:  
https://www.apnic.net/transfer-resources/transfer-logs

From these figures, it is quite likely that substantial number of 103/8
blocks are being used for transfer purpose.

This conflicts with the concept of distribution of 103/8 block
(prop-062), which is intended to accommodate minimum IPv4 address blocks
for new comers.

°°prop-062: Use of final /8
°°
https://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-062


2. Objective of policy change
-----------------------------

When stated problem is solved, distribution from 103/8 block will be
consistent with its original purpose, for distribution for new entrants
to the industry. Without the policy change, substantial portion of 103/8
blocks will be consumed for transfer purpose.


3. Situation in other regions
-----------------------------

None.


4. Proposed policy solution
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Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under /8 address block (103/8) which
have not passed two years after its allocation/assignment.
If the address block allocated to a LIR in two years is not needed any
more, it must return to APNIC to allocate to another organization
using final /8 policy.

In the case of transfers due to M&A, merged organization can have
up to /22 IPv4 address in the 103/8 block in principle. If there
are technical reasons such as all address is used in separate networks
and announced from multiple ASes, merged organization can keep them.
Otherwise, the 103/8 IPv4 address more than /22 must return to APNIC
to allocate to another organization using final /8 policy.


5. Advantages / Disadvantages
-----------------------------

Advantages:
  - It makes 103/8 blocks available according to the original purpose,
    as distribution for new entrants (rather than being consumed for
    transfer purpose)

  - IPv4 addresses under final /8 are not transferred to outside APNIC.

  - By prohibiting transfer them, it is possible to keep one /22 for
    each LIRs state, which is fair for all LIRs.

Disadvantages:

None.


6. Impact on resource holders
------------------------------

  - LIRs cannot transfer address blocks under 103/8. No big impact while
    they use it.

  - Organizations which needs to receive transferred IPv4 can continue
    to do so, outside 103/8 blocks (which should be made available for
    new entrants)


7. References
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