Dear Mr. Md.Jahangir Hossain,
(Following my reply is for just clarification, not
supporting nor opposing to specific proposal)
Revised version of prop-104 which is reached consensus
at APNIC 34
does not mention about justification period for initial
allocation any more.
(Initial version did, but that part was taken away
before the session)
So, if prop-104 will be implemented, we will have two
different terms.
initial allocation case: 12
months
transfer
case: 24
months
> Since a new APNIC member (LIR) get
allocation based on 1 year demonstrate prior to last /8
stage
> so if a existing LIR get allocation
based on 24 month demonstrate then that would not be
fair
> for new APNIC member
(LIR)
Are you considering the case which new LIR get allocation from last
/8?
(in this case justification period is 12 months and /22 is maximum even
after prop-104)
Or, the case which new or existing LIR get address space by the
transfer?
(in this case justification period will be 24 months if prop-104 will be
implemented)
> also it's quit difficult to justify
the 2 year period in case of transfers.
Since we have not yet seen similar comment on the list nor in the
meeting,
can you share more detail reason why you think it is
difficult?
Rgs,
Masato Yamanishi
Thanks Sanjay for your information.
Actually at present
criteria for transfers (1 year ) is fine for criteria prior to last /8
stage.
Since a new APNIC member (LIR) get allocation based on 1
year demonstrate prior to last /8 stage so if a existing LIR get
allocation based on 24 month demonstrate then that would not be fair for new
APNIC member (LIR) also it's quit difficult to justify the 2 year period
in case of transfers.
Thanks
---------- Md.
Jahangir
Hossain
Bangladesh
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Sanjaya
<sanjaya@apnic.net> wrote:
Aftab
and all,
We currently apply the same criteria (1 year need) for
transfers,
exactly the same as the criteria prior to last /8
stage.
Changing the evaluation based on 2 year need will result in
larger
approval size.
For example:
- Assuming that the
requestor can demonstrate, with good evidence, a
need for a /17 in one
year and a /16 in two year
- With the current criteria we will approve a
/17 transfer.
- With the prop-104 criteria we will approve a /16
transfer.
Hope this helps in the
discussion.
Regards,
Sanjaya
On 5/09/2012 4:54 PM, Aftab Siddiqui wrote:
>
Question to Hostmaster/Sec,
>
> Would like to know how a /16
with demonstrated need of 12months was
> approved prior to last /8
policy (prop-062)? If that was not an issue
> for the LIRs to get /16
with a promise to be used in an year than how
> come it is so much
difficult to justify the same now and extend that
> period in case of
transfers?
>
> Regards,
>
> Aftab A.
Siddiqui
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Andy Linton
<
asjl@lpnz.org> <mailto:
asjl@lpnz.org>> wrote:
>
>
Dear SIG members
>
> prop-104:
Clarifying demonstrated needs requirement in IPv4 transfer
>
policy, reached consensus at the APNIC 34 Policy SIG and later at
the
> APNIC Member Meeting.
>
>
This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC
Policy
> Development Process and is being returned to
the Policy SIG mailing list
> for the final 8-week
comment period.
>
> At the end of this period the
Policy SIG Chairs will evaluate comments
> made and
determine if the consensus reached at APNIC 34 still holds.
>
>
If consensus holds, the Chairs of the Policy SIG will ask the
Executive
> Council to endorse the proposal for
implementation.
>
> - Send all
comments and questions to: <
sig-policy@apnic.net
> - Deadline for comments:
Wednesday, 31
> October
2012
>
>
>
> Proposal details
>
---------------------
>
> This
proposal increases to 24 months, the demonstrated need evaluation
>
period for IPv4 transfer recipients.
>
>
Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history,
and
> links to the APNIC 34 meeting archive, are
available at:
>
>
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-104>
>
Regards
>
> Andy, Skeeve, and
Masato
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