sig-policy December 2011

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Re: [sig-policy] Need to understand logic behind assigning /64 IPv6 addresses
by Mark Tinka 21 Sep '12

21 Sep '12

On Sunday, September 18, 2011 01:43:13 AM Owen DeLong wrote: > Multiple prefix sizes, address fragmentation, etc. > Admittedly, it's a small complication, but, it is a > complication. > Further, it violates the principle of least surprise as > your organization scales and brings in new engineers. A good v6 address assignment policy for one's infrastructure is neither difficult to create nor maintain. No issues here since we started running v6 over 6 years ago. We know how v6 can make address management within an ISP's network brain-dead to maintain, but it's not reason enough to use /64's where we can comfortably use /112's and still not overly complicate our lives. > So did I. I was being a little tongue in cheek/snarky > with just presenting the math on the number of > addresses,... I know what you were getting at, with multiple v6 addresses on a single interface, e.t.c. > but the reality is that there may be some > cases where having multiple addresses for one end of a > point to point or the other (or both) may prove useful. > These are admittedly rare. Agree, but having run multiple networks with v6 over the last several years, we're yet to find with a reason that has required us to have multiple addresses on point-to-point links either between infrastructure, or between AS domains. Some things really are that simple :-). Obviously, I can't speak for anyone else's network, just ours. Mark.

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Re: [sig-policy] Article of possible interest to the community
by Mike Burns 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

Hi Owen, > That concept has been floated multiple times and is as ill-conceived now as ever. > Owen Times are changing. What was once conceived of as an orderly transition from IPv4 to IPv6 has bogged down and the current situation is one where APNIC has run out of available IPv4 addresses while the Internet is still 99.7% IPv4 traffic. Asian operators have little choice now but to enter the IPv4 transfer market. Since there is no existing policy mechanism for the transfer of ARIN addresses to APNIC, Asian operators will logically look for an alternate source. Legacy addresses which are not under any agreement with any RIR can be legally bought and sold. And there is no restriction on these addresses being routed from any region on the planet. If the RIRs fail to adopt policies which will facilitate interregional transfers, and there is no law precluding these transactions of legacy space, then these transactions will occur. The author of the article I sent points out that the current situation drives the need for a private registry for legacy addresses. If a private registry is anathema to you, please consider pushing policies in the ARIN region which would facilitate global transfers and reduce the need for a private registry. Because if the RIRs refuse to recognize rational business transactions, these transactions will be driven either to a private registry, or worse, driven "off the books" entirely. Regards, Mike Burns ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen DeLong To: Mike Burns Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Article of possible interest to the community That concept has been floated multiple times and is as ill-conceived now as ever. Owen On Aug 18, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Mike Burns wrote: Hi Owen, I came across a response to Mr. Vixie's article and thought it might be of interest to the APNIC community, particularly as it mentions pending IPv4 legacy address sales to Asian customers. http://techliberation.com/2011/08/15/trading-ipv4-addresses-starts-making-i… The concept elucidated is a private registry for legacy addresses which would have no restrictions on interregional sales, thus allowing the legal transfer of legacy IPv4 address into Asia. Regards, Mike Burns ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen DeLong To: sig-policy(a)apnic.net SIG List Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:31 AM Subject: [sig-policy] Article of possible interest to the community I came across this ACM article and thought it might be of interest to the APNIC community as well... http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2008216 Owen -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list sig-policy(a)lists.apnic.net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy

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Monthly List Reminder
by noreply＠apnic.net 31 Dec '11

31 Dec '11

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Special Interest Groups Now Dissolved
by Srinivas Chendi 16 Dec '11

16 Dec '11

________________________________________________________________________ Special Interest Groups Now Dissolved ________________________________________________________________________ As per section 2.2 of the SIG guidelines and following approval given by the APNIC community at the APNIC 32 AMM, the APNIC Secretariat now dissolves the following Special Interest Groups and is closing the mailing lists to any new subscriptions. - Database SIG - DNS Operations SIG - Internet Exchange SIG - IPv6 Technical SIG - Routing SIG http://www.apnic.net/sig-guidelines.pdf Members of the community can still access the SIG mailing list, webpage, and previous SIG session archives at: http://www.apnic.net/sigs The APNIC Secretariat appreciates and thankfully acknowledges the work done by these SIG Chairs and Co-Chairs and those who have subscribed to participate in the discussions. ________________________________________________________________________ APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.

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Final Call for Comments to Dissolve Special Interest Groups (SIGs)
by Srinivas Chendi 08 Dec '11

08 Dec '11

________________________________________________________________________ Final Call for Comments to Dissolve Special Interest Groups (SIGs) ________________________________________________________________________ This is a final call and reminder that comments to dissolve the following Special Interest Groups (SIGs) must be submitted by 17:30 Tuesday, 13 December 2011 (UTC +10). - Database SIG - DNS Operations SIG - Internet Exchange SIG - IPv6 Technical SIG - Routing SIG Members can post their comments to the relevant mailing list at: http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo Under Section 2.2 of the Guidelines, SIG members may decide to dissolve these SIGs where there are signs that a SIG has outlived its purpose. This is recommended as an appropriate course of action. http://www.apnic.net/sig-guidelines.pdf At the APNIC 32 AMM, the APNIC community approved the recommendation by relevant SIG Chairs and Co-Chairs present at the Meeting to dissolve these SIGs. For more information about this decision and recommendation, please refer to: http://meetings.apnic.net/32/sig-pc.pptx http://meetings.apnic.net/32/amm/trans/sess3 In the interests of openness and transparency, the APNIC Secretariat requests that relevant SIG members make final comments regarding this decision. -- _______________________________________________________________________ APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.

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