When you say "on their end" do you mean the ISP right? Or the upstream?

I'm hoping anyone from any of these ISPs or upstream or anyone in the know might comment?



On Sat, 16 Oct, 2021, 7:20 pm Daryll Swer, <contact@daryllswer.com> wrote:
This is likely caused by bad MTU on their end or bad Queuing algorithm or neither. I've seen single threads tend to be slower regardless of Queuing even if it's done directly on edge of a network with no bandwidth caps.

On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 7:11 PM, Vishal Rao <vishalrao@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello INNOG,

I'm sending you some quick findings about the speed throttling on my BSNL and Microscan fiber connections.

I have 300 and 200 mbps plans from them respectively, but if I try to download a file, say from a linux mirror, using a single connection "thread" like with using wget command, the speed I get is very low... 80 mbps or less, usually even 20-30 mbps for BOTH ISPs and both have Tata as upstream I believe.

They might just be throttling to their transit (or even to anywhere!) instead of the Tata upstream doing it.

I just now tried downloading a file from ubuntu india mirror (piconet webwerks) hosted in DE-CIX and also ESTO internet and both are exhibiting the slow downloads! Few days ago it was fast for local/indian mirrors and slow just for international locations.

The file I am downloading is the same hosted on their 2 networks:


and


Same low speed observed if I try the file off international mirrors like:



I am pasting the traceroutes from both my BSNL and Microscan connections to the piconet india mirror and the sweden mirror just FYI.

If you need some specific info from me, let me know, I will send what I can to you...

TRACEROUTE BSNL TO PICONET WEBWERKS MIRROR:

PS C:\Users\visha\Downloads> tracert mirrors.piconets.webwerks.in

Tracing route to mirrors.piconets.webwerks.in [43.240.66.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  117.214.120.1
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  static.bb.pun.117.218.164.1.bsnl.in [117.218.164.1]
  4     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  218.248.164.114
  5     *        *        4 ms  218.248.255.22
  6     *        4 ms     4 ms  218.248.255.23
  7     5 ms     5 ms     5 ms  103.27.170.25
  8     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  103.248.63.249
  9    24 ms    25 ms    25 ms  43.240.66.200

TRACEROUTE MICROSCAN TO PICONET MIRROR:

PS C:\Users\visha\Downloads> tracert mirrors.piconets.webwerks.in

Tracing route to mirrors.piconets.webwerks.in [43.240.66.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  103.226.140.222
  3     3 ms     3 ms     2 ms  45.251.12.109
  4   282 ms    38 ms    11 ms  172.16.2.126
  5     5 ms     5 ms     4 ms  103.27.170.25
  6     5 ms     5 ms     4 ms  103.248.63.249
  7     7 ms     7 ms     8 ms  43.240.66.200

Trace complete.

TRACEROUTE BSNL TO SWEDEN MIRROR:

PS C:\Users\visha> tracert se.archive.ubuntu.com

Tracing route to ftp.acc.umu.se [194.71.11.165]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  117.214.120.1
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  static.bb.pun.117.218.164.1.bsnl.in [117.218.164.1]
  4     2 ms     8 ms     2 ms  218.248.164.78
  5     4 ms     3 ms     3 ms  218.248.255.22
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     4 ms     7 ms     4 ms  61.246.195.185
  8   198 ms   197 ms   197 ms  116.119.52.165
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   207 ms   209 ms   207 ms  nl-sar.nordu.net [109.105.97.65]
 11   214 ms   214 ms   213 ms  dk-esbj.nordu.net [109.105.97.74]
 12   220 ms   219 ms   219 ms  dk-bal2.nordu.net [109.105.97.2]
 13   221 ms   221 ms   221 ms  lnd88-r1.sunet.se [109.105.102.3]
 14   223 ms   223 ms   223 ms  vaxjo-vxj-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.63]
 15   224 ms   224 ms   225 ms  jonkoping-jkg-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.54]
 16   227 ms   227 ms   227 ms  skovde-ske109-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.43]
 17   228 ms   228 ms   228 ms  orebro-lba-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.32]
 18   244 ms   230 ms   231 ms  falun-fln4-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.22]
 19   234 ms   235 ms   234 ms  sundsvall-sva-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.21]
 20   237 ms   237 ms   237 ms  umea-ume8-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.15]
 21   237 ms   237 ms   237 ms  umu-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.115]
 22   237 ms   238 ms   237 ms  hammurabi.ftp.acc.umu.se [194.71.11.165]

Trace complete.

TRACEROUTE MICROSCAN TO SWEDEN MIRROR:

PS C:\Users\visha> tracert se.archive.ubuntu.com

Tracing route to ftp.acc.umu.se [194.71.11.165]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  103.226.140.222
  3     4 ms     2 ms     2 ms  45.251.12.109
  4     2 ms     2 ms     3 ms  172.16.2.205
  5     2 ms     3 ms     3 ms  14.143.171.253.static-pune.vsnl.net.in [14.143.171.253]
  6    10 ms     9 ms    10 ms  172.28.176.197
  7     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  ix-ae-1-100.tcore2.mlv-mumbai.as6453.net [180.87.39.25]
  8   113 ms   112 ms   112 ms  if-ae-2-2.tcore1.mlv-mumbai.as6453.net [180.87.38.1]
  9   110 ms   110 ms   110 ms  if-ae-5-2.tcore1.wyn-marseille.as6453.net [80.231.217.29]
 10   108 ms   108 ms   108 ms  if-ae-21-2.tcore1.pye-paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.208]
 11   113 ms   113 ms   112 ms  80.231.154.29
 12   120 ms     *        *     prs-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.125.170]
 13   122 ms   121 ms   121 ms  adm-bb3-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.134.96]
 14   123 ms   123 ms   123 ms  adm-b1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.136.195]
 15   115 ms   115 ms   125 ms  nordunet-ic157530-adm-b5.ip.twelve99-cust.net [62.115.11.42]
 16   121 ms   122 ms   122 ms  dk-esbj.nordu.net [109.105.97.74]
 17   131 ms   141 ms   131 ms  dk-bal2.nordu.net [109.105.97.2]
 18   126 ms   127 ms   126 ms  lnd88-r1.sunet.se [109.105.102.3]
 19   136 ms   135 ms   135 ms  vaxjo-vxj-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.63]
 20   134 ms   140 ms   134 ms  jonkoping-jkg-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.54]
 21   130 ms   133 ms   136 ms  skovde-ske109-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.43]
 22   135 ms   134 ms   134 ms  orebro-lba-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.32]
 23   140 ms   139 ms   139 ms  falun-fln4-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.22]
 24   139 ms   154 ms   139 ms  sundsvall-sva-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.21]
 25   150 ms   152 ms   150 ms  umea-ume8-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.15]
 26   149 ms   149 ms   149 ms  umu-r1.sunet.se [130.242.4.115]
 27   147 ms   147 ms   146 ms  hammurabi.ftp.acc.umu.se [194.71.11.165]

Trace complete.

Let me know if there is some specific info you need that I missed out?

The reason why I am sending this email is to ask what may be the reason for low speed and whether it is intentional and can be improved?

Regards,
Vishal Rao

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