Hello Geoff and all, 

Thank you for pointing it out, I must say I don't read many of the until you brought this up.

I also wonder if someone is seeing what you have mentioned. Again, this week shows similar thing with these updating about two-times per minute:

TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix             Upds     % Origin AS -- AS Name
 1 - 93.181.192.0/19   22303  0.6%   AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM Verhnevolzhsky branch, RU
 2 - 110.170.17.0/24   22036  0.6%   AS134438 -- AIRAAIFUL-AS-AP Aira & Aiful Public Company Limited, TH
 3 - 103.242.52.0/22   20105  0.6%   AS131390 -- ECOMVIET-AS-VN Vietnam E-commerce Development Centre, VN


As you have mentioned that generally no more dampening. It would be nice if someone could contact these operators and let them know. Is there a mechanism in place in contacting the admin of these AS/prefixes or their upstream? Should there be one?

I also wonder about the general cause of these high-frequency updates. Is it from router processing overload, bug in the router, simply poor connectivity or other reasons?

ram



On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:22 AM, Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net> wrote:

> On 19 Jun 2016, at 6:05 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, cidr-report@potaroo.net wrote:
>
>>
>> TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
>> Rank Prefix             Upds     % Origin AS -- AS Name
>> 1 - 202.65.32.0/21    28086  0.8%   AS10131 -- CKTELECOM-CK-AP Telecom Cook Islands, CK
>> 2 - 110.170.17.0/24   21868  0.7%   AS134438 -- AIRAAIFUL-AS-AP Aira & Aiful Public Company Limited, TH
>> 3 - 123.231.192.0/24  21562  0.7%   AS133841 -- IDOLA-BROADBAND-AS-ID INDONESIA BROADBAND ACCESS - ANYWHERE, ID
>> 4 - 93.181.192.0/19   20895  0.6%   AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM Verhnevolzhsky branch, RU
>> 5 - 123.231.206.0/24  19170  0.6%   AS133841 -- IDOLA-BROADBAND-AS-ID INDONESIA BROADBAND ACCESS - ANYWHERE, ID
>> 6 - 123.231.193.0/24  19082  0.6%   AS133841 -- IDOLA-BROADBAND-AS-ID INDONESIA BROADBAND ACCESS - ANYWHERE, ID
>> 7 - 195.128.159.0/24  15455  0.5%   AS56636 -- ASVEDARU , RU
>> 8 - 192.254.88.0/24   15452  0.5%   AS21859 -- ZNET - Zenlayer Inc, US
>> 9 - 185.11.121.0/24   14957  0.5%   AS202105 -- DSP-AS , SA
>
> Everyone of these prefixes have managed to average one update per 40 seconds during a week, or worse. How is that even possible? Yes, I know we don't generally have dampening anymore, but geez, that's a lot of updates.
>

In the case of Cook Islands Telecom the problem is not directly with them - its their one-up upstream Spark NZ (AS4648) who appears to be flicking this route across a number of transit upstreams (http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net/cgi-bin/per-prefix?prefix=202.65.32.0.21)

Geoff


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