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Re: [Wg-rms] Stepping down from co-chair role
Hi Jas,
You are speaking for yourself right? The company that
pays my bills is small (relatively) and we could save
a huge amount of resources by automating this process
with a immediate secure feedback mechanism. Email
doesn't do that.. you could make email secure - but
that is a kludge.
what do you see about secure email that is not appropriate?
Furthermore.. the autodbm thing via email is not
friendly.. even for well formed "objects". Have you
used it? it sucks! I heard a rumour once that APNIC
just adopted the RIPE stuff. This is an opportunity
for the AP community to OWN the registry system..
I apologise that your interactions with the existing APNIC systems have
been less than ideal. A part of your paragraph has raised some concern
for me. When you are talking about the "well formed objects" failures,
was it based on the object not being correctly interpreted by the
system or that the levels of authorisation/authentication were causing
some confusion or issues?
And I WANT easy.. It took me two days and some weeks
of meetings to explain how to use the APNIC whois to a
new engineer. (maintainers, parent objects, yadda
yadda yadda - none of which is sensible IMHO)
I think that any system will have a level of 'learning-curve'
regardless if it is email based or not. Can you clarify if your
meetings were focused on:
- authorisation (knowing what your maintainer can achieve)
- authentication (the password/pgp key/other failed expectations)
- syntactical issues (Just couldn't get the object "right")
- a lack of appropriate documentation/instruction by APNIC.
I want tools.. APNIC should be building tools for us
to integrate with our systems. That would make my life
Can you elaborate on the tools that you would find valuable? and what
information you would like back from those tools on a success or
failure?
I was reading the SIDR list (ietf), which seems to be
driven by APNIC people, and I think that it is very
likely that it will happen.. How do you think you will
interact with a _secure_ routing construct with email?
securely?... I see that as a stupid exercise.
The IETF is an open community and certainly APNIC staff are involved in
the SIDR working group and of course other IETF working groups. I don't
see that APNIC are "driving" that particular working group to a
particular outcome or the outcomes of any other WG.
Simply.. I want to see change.
I appreciate that you would like to interact with APNIC systems and
data in a different fashion that suits your needs. Are you able to be
more precise and provide a list of your requirements?
Terry
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Terry Manderson email: terry@apnic.net
Network Operations Manager, APNIC sip: info@voip.apnic.net
http://www.apnic.net phone: +61 7 3858 3100
