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Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC 7.2) Documentation required (fwd)



Hi Son, Maruta-san, and all,

Thank you for your comments. I agree with Maruta-san that vendor/model
name is not *mandatory*. However there has been the case that IRs asks
such information as Son wrote.

So tentatively I would like to propose this as below. Please comment.

----------------------------
 7.2 Documentation required

When LIRs request their initial IPv6 address allocation to RIR/NIR, 
LIRs are requested to provide designated request form as well as the
following information.

 - Network diagram
 - Network equipment information. This is to ensure LIR has a plan to 
   implement IPv6 ready infrastructure.

   (Model/Vendor name is not mandatory but there may be a case that
    RIR/NIR asks those information in some cases.(e.g. if LIRs 
    require a plenty of pool address such as CATV/ADSL operator.))

 - Approximate deployment date.
 - Service plan (Web hosting, Access service, etc)
---------------------------------

Thanks and best regards,
Toshi


From: John Tran <john@apnic.net>
Subject: Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC 7.2) Documentation required (fwd)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:58:17 +1000 (EST)

> Hi all,
> 
> Thank you very much for Toshi-san to produce the draft. I would like to provide some general 
> information on what type of information we need when evaluating.
> 
> I agree with Toru-san that sometime a network is sufficient to understand on how address
> space will be used. I am, however, also see why Toshi-san require other information as well.
> 
> For example if the request is for an organisation infrastructure and a few difference services
> that does not require knowledge of equipment details like web-hosting, transit, and etc. This
> kind of request we can easily understand and make the decision with or without the diagram. 
> However, for the case where an organisation is going to provide services such as ADSL, Cable modem, and etc where there is a requirement of large pool of address space to be assigned then it is 
> necesary for IR to understand how many and what kind of equipment the organisation has purchased 
> so that IR can accurately access the address requirement. 
> 
> Therefore in general not all information are needed for all application but it is totally depending
>  on each application. As such maybe we need to reword the document to reflect this.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> son
> APNIC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:58:57 +0900
> > > > From: Toru Maruta <to-maruta@kddi.com>
> > > > To: hosaka@nic.ad.jp, wg-ipv6-guide@lists.apnic.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC 7.2) Documentation required
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Hosaka san,
> > > > 
> > > > I believe the following example is the actual required documents
> > > > to get an initial ipv6 address allocation. However I was curious
> > > > why network equipment information (i.e., vendor name, model name)
> > > > was necessary. Sometimes network equipment change due to the 
> > > > tender process. I also doubt that allocation decision changes 
> > > > depending on the actual equipment vendor. I have a feeling that
> > > > network diagram (topology) information is sufficient for 
> > > > allocation decision, and vendor/model information may not be 
> > > > mandatory.
> > > > 
> > > > Toru Maruta
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > <20040109191021P.hosaka@nic.ad.jp> の、
> > > >    "[Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC 7.2) Documentation required" において、
> > > >    "Toshiyuki Hosaka <hosaka@nic.ad.jp>"さんは書きました:
> > > > 
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please see the draft below. Regarding 7.2.1, we would like to list
> > > > > better example so I especially appreciate APNIC's comment who has the
> > > > > experience to evaluate the real IPv6 request. Comments from others are
> > > > > welcome of course.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you all.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >  7.2 Documentation required 
> > > > > 
> > > > > When LIRs request their initial IPv6 address allocation to RIR/NIR, 
> > > > > LIRs are requested to provide designated request form as well as the
> > > > > following information.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  - Network diagram
> > > > >  - Network equipment information. This is to ensure LIR has a plan to 
> > > > >    implement IPv6 ready infrastructure.
> > > > >   + Vendor name (such as CISCO, HITACHI..)
> > > > >   + Model name
> > > > >  - Approximate deployment date.
> > > > >  - Service plan (Web hosting, Access service, etc)
> > > > > 
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >   7.2.1 Examples
> > > > >   Following is the example of the documentation required. These are 
> > > > >   for reference for the ISPs.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   - ADSL/Cable providers 
> > > > >    + Network diagram
> > > > >    + CMTS information (Quantity, model name)
> > > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > > >    + The number of existing (or projected) customers
> > > > > 
> > > > >   - mobile phone operators, GPRS
> > > > >    + Network diagram
> > > > >    + Network equipment information
> > > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > > >    + The number of existing (or projected) customers
> > > > > 
> > > > >   - transit providers
> > > > >    + Network diagram
> > > > >    + Network equipment information
> > > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > > >    + The number of existing (or projected) customers
> > > > > 
> > > > >   - multi-national enterprises
> > > > >   - educational institutions
> > > > >    + Network diagram
> > > > >    + Network equipment information
> > > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > > >    + The number of organizations to which LIRs assign /48s
> > > > > 
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Toshi
> > > > > --
> > > > > Toshiyuki Hosaka <hosaka@nic.ad.jp>
> > > > > IP Department, Japan Network Information Center (JPNIC)
> > > > > tel: +81-(0)3-5297-2311  fax: +81-(0)3-5297-2312
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Toru Maruta
> > > > KDDI Corporation
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