Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC 7.2) Documentation required (fwd)

[John Tran <john@apnic.net>]

Hi all,

Thank you very much for Toshi-san to produce the draft. I would like to provide some general 
information on what type of information we need when evaluating.

I agree with Toru-san that sometime a network is sufficient to understand on how address
space will be used. I am, however, also see why Toshi-san require other information as well.

For example if the request is for an organisation infrastructure and a few difference services
that does not require knowledge of equipment details like web-hosting, transit, and etc. This
kind of request we can easily understand and make the decision with or without the diagram. 
However, for the case where an organisation is going to provide services such as ADSL, Cable modem, and etc where there is a requirement of large pool of address space to be assigned then it is 
necesary for IR to understand how many and what kind of equipment the organisation has purchased 
so that IR can accurately access the address requirement. 

Therefore in general not all information are needed for all application but it is totally depending
 on each application. As such maybe we need to reword the document to reflect this.

Thanks

son
APNIC




> > > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:58:57 +0900
> > > From: Toru Maruta <to-maruta@kddi.com>
> > > To: hosaka@nic.ad.jp, wg-ipv6-guide@lists.apnic.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC 7.2) Documentation required
> > > 
> > > Hi Hosaka san,
> > > 
> > > I believe the following example is the actual required documents
> > > to get an initial ipv6 address allocation. However I was curious
> > > why network equipment information (i.e., vendor name, model name)
> > > was necessary. Sometimes network equipment change due to the 
> > > tender process. I also doubt that allocation decision changes 
> > > depending on the actual equipment vendor. I have a feeling that
> > > network diagram (topology) information is sufficient for 
> > > allocation decision, and vendor/model information may not be 
> > > mandatory.
> > > 
> > > Toru Maruta
> > > 
> > > 
> > > <20040109191021P.hosaka@nic.ad.jp> $B$N!"(B
> > >    "[Wg-ipv6-guide] (ToC 7.2) Documentation required" $B$K$*$$$F!"(B
> > >    "Toshiyuki Hosaka <hosaka@nic.ad.jp>"$B$5$s$O=q$-$^$7$?!'(B
> > > 
> > > > Dear all,
> > > > 
> > > > Please see the draft below. Regarding 7.2.1, we would like to list
> > > > better example so I especially appreciate APNIC's comment who has the
> > > > experience to evaluate the real IPv6 request. Comments from others are
> > > > welcome of course.
> > > > 
> > > > Looking forward to hearing from you all.
> > > > 
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  7.2 Documentation required 
> > > > 
> > > > When LIRs request their initial IPv6 address allocation to RIR/NIR, 
> > > > LIRs are requested to provide designated request form as well as the
> > > > following information.
> > > > 
> > > >  - Network diagram
> > > >  - Network equipment information. This is to ensure LIR has a plan to 
> > > >    implement IPv6 ready infrastructure.
> > > >   + Vendor name (such as CISCO, HITACHI..)
> > > >   + Model name
> > > >  - Approximate deployment date.
> > > >  - Service plan (Web hosting, Access service, etc)
> > > > 
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >   7.2.1 Examples
> > > >   Following is the example of the documentation required. These are 
> > > >   for reference for the ISPs.
> > > > 
> > > >   - ADSL/Cable providers 
> > > >    + Network diagram
> > > >    + CMTS information (Quantity, model name)
> > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > >    + The number of existing (or projected) customers
> > > > 
> > > >   - mobile phone operators, GPRS
> > > >    + Network diagram
> > > >    + Network equipment information
> > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > >    + The number of existing (or projected) customers
> > > > 
> > > >   - transit providers
> > > >    + Network diagram
> > > >    + Network equipment information
> > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > >    + The number of existing (or projected) customers
> > > > 
> > > >   - multi-national enterprises
> > > >   - educational institutions
> > > >    + Network diagram
> > > >    + Network equipment information
> > > >    + Approximate deployment date
> > > >    + The number of organizations to which LIRs assign /48s
> > > > 
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Toshi
> > > > --
> > > > Toshiyuki Hosaka <hosaka@nic.ad.jp>
> > > > IP Department, Japan Network Information Center (JPNIC)
> > > > tel: +81-(0)3-5297-2311  fax: +81-(0)3-5297-2312
> > > > 
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