Re: [Wg-apnic-fees] Fee proposal version 2.3

[Philip Smith <pfs@cisco.com>]

Hi,

Thu Thuy said the following on 11/1/07 19:40:
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> I'm wondering why you insist that internet resource management is "value
> added service" and "marketing".

I didn't say that at all. Please re-read my e-mail.

> Did you see that after 9 living and
> working year in the AP region ?

No. I see that the NIRs claiming to provide a service to their
membership over and above what APNIC can provide. And they are quite
happy to tell people that. Everywhere. There is absolutely nothing wrong
with that.

If someone is providing a service over and above a core service, it is
value add. If someone tells groups of other people that they are doing
something, this is marketing.

Do I need to spell it out any more clearly?

> APNIC is not a manufacturer. Routers belongs Cisco. They make them and
> sell them. Internet addresses is not APNIC's IPs. It belongs to
> community. It is of community.

Sorry, Internet address space is *delegated* to APNIC by the IANA for
distribution within the community. The address space does not belong to
the community, nor anyone else.

> Sorry if I misunderstood, but when you say "Translate into an equipment
> vendor analogy" and "it is still an APNIC resource", i imagine APNIC as
> a company selling an exclusive product.

Yes, you I think you misunderstood. APNIC is leasing an exclusive
product. When the lease is over, the end-site doesn't need it, it goes
back into APNIC's pool. If APNIC doesn't need it, it goes back into the
IANA pool.

> APNIC have their Asia-Pacific community, and within our countries, we
> have our community, too. You will see this clearer if you study more
> about our government policies on Internet resource management.

So you are saying Vietnam is not part of the Asia Pacific community??

Political statements and Government opinions are really irrelevant when
it comes to making routers work, and devices communicate with each
other. We need IP addresses for the latter, definitely not for the
former. ;-)

Best wishes!

philip
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