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Re: [Wg-apnic-fees] Counterproposal of new membership fee structure for APNIC



Dear Hosaka-san, everyone,

So NIRs pay less and ordinary members pay more under the JPNIC counter
proposal?

For some reason, I don't see that one being too popular with many members.

Note that NIRs are not the only organisations who support and sponsor
APNIC meetings. Can those other organisations get preferential treatment
for their fees too please?

Seriously though, both proposal and counter proposal link fee size with
address space, implying a payment for address space received. And that
disturbs me if the current model is meant to be one of APNIC being the
custodian of Internet Resources. Shouldn't members be paying fees for
allocation services supplied by APNIC? As with the Internet Routing
table, it's not the size of the prefix that matters, it's the number,
and what is done with them.

So how about simply setting the fees according to the number of /21s
handed out (which happens once per /21), plus an allocation maintenance
fee (which is annual, ongoing, and charged per allocation and not on the
size).

Furthermore, I've seen no discussion whatsoever about balancing fees
according to the host economy's GDP. The AP region is diverse, ranging
from developing Internet to technological leaders, with GDPs to match.

I think any revised APNIC fee structure has to recognise that some parts
of the APNIC region can easily afford the fees as they are today, and as
are proposed through either proposal, yet many other parts simply cannot
even though they require the address space (and result in the severe
brokeness of using NAT and double NAT to attempt to provide connection
services to their customers).

I'm sure we can revisit all this on Thursday! ;-)

philip
--

Toshiyuki Hosaka said the following on 4/9/06 19:58:
> Dear WG members,
> 
> I have created a counterproposal of APNIC new membership fee structure
> and attached in this email. I hope this helps to facilitate a discussion
> on this issue.
> 
> Your comments would be highly appreciated.
> 
> thanks and best regards,
> Toshi
> --
> Toshiyuki Hosaka
> Japan Network Information Center (JPNIC)
> 
> 
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