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Re: [sig-policy] Address Transfer Policy Proposal
Hi Terry and Geoff
As requested, information from the Secretariat, inline below.
On 3/6/09 9:25 PM, Terry Manderson wrote:
Hi Geoff,
On 03/06/2009, at 5:33 PM, Geoff Huston wrote:
[..]
A: addresses held by current financial members of APNIC,
B: addresses held by non-members of APNIC who pay APNIC a non-member
service fee associated with the address holding, and
C: there are "historical" address resources which are listed in the
APNIC databases and the listed holder is not a financial member and
the address is not the subject of an annual maintenance fee
My intent was to say that addresses in categories A and B are
"current" addresses and may be transferred, and category C
addresses are not eligible to be transferred. In the later case the
entity concerned can become a member or reestablish a relationship
with APNIC and pay an annual maintenance fee and then the addresses
are eligible for transfer.
That sounds onerous (cost wise) on an organisation that 1) holds
historical addresses, 2) wishes to pass them to another entity for
valid use.
The reason why I felt that this was appropriate is that addresses in
category C may, or may not, have a clear and current record of the
current holder of the address resource and the process of making the
addresses current within APNIC's existing processes uses a set of
procedures that
I think this represents a level of uncertainty if those "C" addresses
cannot be sensibly brought into the framework rapidly through a
suitable process or there is some doubt as to the current holder. Such
that category C resources left out there may exist and foster some
black market which is untraceable and leaves the registry with holes.
Something to try to avoid perhaps.
I would urge the secretariat to confirm that all those category C
allocations are demonstrably with those organisations and APNIC can
confirm that the registry is sane before committing to a larger
transfer policy. That may be costly to the secretariat, but of a
larger significant benefit to the community.
Transfers for addresses in category C are covered by the existing
"Policies for the transfer of historical Internet resources" in the
policy document, "Policies for historical Internet resources in the
APNIC Whois Database":
http://www.apnic.net/historical-resources#transfer
call on the holder to demonstrate their continuing association with
the addresses - it was hoped that this would improve, to some
extent, the integrity of transfer transactions in so far as the
intent was that transfer transactions would be registered when both
parties were "known" to APNIC, and APNIC would avoid becoming a
party to possibly fraudulent transfer transactions.
<snip rest of email>
Cheers
Terry
Regards
Sam
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Samantha Dickinson email: sam@apnic.net
Policy Development Manager, APNIC sip: sam@voip.apnic.net
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