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Re: [sig-policy] APNIC EC returns prop-050: IPv4 address transfers to Policy SIG



Upon re-reading... disgusted was not the word I was looking for.

Astounded, Disappointed, etc... would have been more accurate to my thinking.

...Skeeve

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eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-
> bounces@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: Sunday, 31 May 2009 11:08 PM
> To: sig-policy@apnic.net
> Cc: Sam Dickinson
> Subject: Re: [sig-policy] APNIC EC returns prop-050: IPv4 address
> transfers to Policy SIG
>
> All,
>
> I am personally disgusted that even when two of the three co-chairs did
> not think that consensus had been reached, Randy rammed his position
> through.
>
> I think an investigation needs to be seriously looked into how this has
> happened, and that indeed if there is any point to the comment period
> as no matter how much was said, Randy got what he wanted.
>
> I presume the EC reads this list, and if they do, I am very
> disappointed in them for allowing this to go through when there are
> clear concerns about it.
>
> I would like to know the process to make a formal complaint please...
> Sam, please advise.
>
> --
> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
> --
> NOC, NOC, who's there?
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sig-policy-bounces@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-
> > bounces@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Sam Dickinson
> > Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 3:40 PM
> > To: sig-policy@apnic.net
> > Subject: [sig-policy] APNIC EC returns prop-050: IPv4 address
> transfers
> > to Policy SIG
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > APNIC EC returns "IPv4 address transfers" to Policy SIG
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> >
> >
> > Dear colleagues
> >
> > The APNIC EC (Executive Council), at its meeting on 21 May 2009,
> > returned prop-050, "IPv4 address transfers", to the Policy SIG for
> > further discussion.  Minutes from this meeting will be available
> after
> > they have been adopted at the June 2009 EC meeting.
> >
> > Below is the official notification from the EC:
> >
> >      This is a response to the Policy Development Manager from the
> >      APNIC Executive Council.
> >
> >      The APNIC Policy SIG Chair formally requested the APNIC EC to
> >      endorse Proposal-50 on the 20th May.
> >
> >      According to the APNIC Policy Development Process: "The EC, in
> >      their capacity as representatives of the membership, will be
> asked
> >      to endorse the consensus proposals arising from the OPM and the
> >      SIG mailing lists for implementation at the next EC meeting. In
> >      reviewing the proposals for implementation, the EC may refer
> >      proposals back to the SIG for further discussion with clearly
> >      stated reasons."
> >
> >      In its meeting of the 21st May the APNIC Executive Council has
> >      decided to refer Proposal-50 back to the Policy SIG.  The reason
> >      for this referral is that the EC is not of the opinion that the
> >      proposal has gathered a clear consensus in favour of the policy,
> >      and the EC notes that the proposal, taken in isolation, has
> >      engendered significant concerns within the community relating to
> >      the adequacy of safeguards against potential abuse as a
> >      consequence of implementation this policy.
> >
> >      regards,
> >
> >      Geoff Huston
> >      Executive Secretary to the APNIC EC
> >      for the APNIC EC
> >
> >
> > For a detailed history of the proposal, see:
> >
> > <http://www.apnic.net/services/services-apnic-provides/policy/policy-
> > proposals/prop-050>
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --
> > _____________________________________________________________________
> > Samantha Dickinson                     email:           sam@apnic.net
> > Policy Development Manager, APNIC        sip:      sam@voip.apnic.net
> > http://www.apnic.net                   phone:         +61 7 3858 3100
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