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[sig-nir] Re: NIR-SIG at APNIC18 - Call for presentations and newco-chair(s)
hi Izumi,
Just a note in response to let you know that the impact of this
proposal as well as the proposal [prop-024-v001] 'Changing the
NIR fee structure' are both currently being analysed. It is hoped
that a result will be available before the meeting.
Best wishes,
Anne
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Izumi Okutani wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> Just as Toshi, I would be interested to know an opinion of the APNIC
> secretariat if this proposal is reasonable in terms of APNIC's
> operational expenses.
>
> Comments from NIRs are also very welcome, and looking forward for your
> feedbacks.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Izumi
> JPNIC
>
> From: Izumi Okutani <izumi@nic.ad.jp>
> Subject: Re: NIR-SIG at APNIC18 - Call for presentations and new co-chair(s)
> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:22:57 +0900 (JST)
>
> > Maemura-san and NIR colleagues,
> >
> >
> > The following is the proposal I have submitted online yesterday.
> >
> > I am looking forward to have discussions with you at Fiji, but any
> > feedbacks or comments in advance are also very welcome.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Izumi
> > JPNIC
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Your name: Izumi Okutani
> >
> > Your email address: izumi@nic.ad.jp
> >
> > Co-Authors:
> >
> > SIG: nir
> >
> > Title: A proposal to abolish redundant charges in IPv6 allocations
> >
> > Introduction: This paper proposes to revise a method of calculating IPv6 per
> > address fee so that multiple fees charged for the same address range will
> > be abolished.
> >
> > Summary: "Per address fee" is the fee charged for allocations which NIRs or
> > NIR members receive. Therefore, per address fee should only be charged for
> > newly allocated ranges.
> >
> > However, the current per address fee scheme defined in APNIC-081 "APNIC Fee
> > Schedule: Membership Tiers, Fees, and Descriptions" ,leads to multiple
> > charges for the same address range in IPv6 allocations. The following how it
> > is defined in the document:
> >
> > APNIC-081 "APNIC Fee Schedule: Membership Tiers, Fees, and Descriptions"
> > 3.4.3 IPv6 address space
> >
> > For an allocation of IPv6 address space, the total per-
> > address fee is calculated for the prefix allocated according
> > to the number of addresses which should be utilised according
> > to an HD-Ratio of 0.80.
> >
> > (snip..)
> >
> > In the case of an allocation which includes a previously
> > allocated block of addresses, the total fee calculation is
> > based on the size of the prefix allocated, regardless of the
> > previous allocation.
> >
> > Under this scheme, NIRs will be charged for the address space which had been
> > previously charged when they receive subsequent allocations which are
> > contiguous from previous allocations(see the chart below).
> >
> > +-----+
> > | /32 |
> > +-----+
> > (new allocation)
> > (charge)
> >
> >
> > +-----------+
> > | /31 |
> > +-----------+
> > (new allocation - /32)
> > (charge)
> >
> > +--------------------------+
> > | /30 |
> > +--------------------------+
> > (new allocation - /31)
> > (charge)
> >
> > As a result, NIRs must either come up with a way to cover the redundant
> > charge without charging their memebrs, or apply the same scheme to their
> > members. JPNIC applies the same scheme, but we are unable to make a
> > reasonable justification.
> >
> > Furtheremore, it leads to LIRs which conserve address space(requesting for
> > small allocations as a start) have to
> > pay more fee than LIRs which request for large allocations at once:
> >
> > (case-1) /32 initially, then upgrade to /31, /30, until /29
> >
> > Initial allocation (/32) : 7,132 * per address fee
> > Second allocation (/32, /31 in total) : 12,417 * per address fee
> > Third allocation (/31, /30 in total) : 21,619 * per address fee
> > Fourth allocation (/30, /29 in total) : 37,641 * per address fee
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Fee total : 78,809 * per address fee
> >
> >
> > (case-2) /29 initial allocation
> >
> > Initial allocation (/29) : 37,641 * per address fee
> >
> > Situation: N/A
> >
> > Details: The proposal is to replace APNIC-081 as below;
> >
> >
> > 3.4.3 IPv6 address space
> >
> > For an allocation of IPv6 address space, the total per-
> > address fee is calculated for the prefix allocated according
> > to the number of addresses which should be utilised according
> > to an HD-Ratio of 0.80.
> >
> > (snip..)
> >
> > In the case of an allocation which includes a previously
> > allocated block of addresses, the total fee calculation is
> > based on the difference in the number of /48s corresponding
> > to HD-ratio 0.8, between the previous allocation and the new
> > allocation.
> >
> > For example, the total per-address fee payable for an
> > allocation of /30 including previous /32 allocation to a "Very
> > Large" member is calculated as:
> >
> > (21,619 - 7,132) x $ 0.03 = $ 434.61
> >
> > Note: The number of /48s for /32 under HD ratio 0.8: 7,132
> > The number of /48s for /30 under HD ratio 0.8: 21,619
> >
> > Pros/Cons: Adopting the proposed method of fee calculation would lead to:
> >
> > Advantages
> > 1) Multiple fees will no longer be charged for the same address range.
> >
> > 2) Same fee will be charged in total regardless of the size of past
> > allocations.
> >
> > (case-1') /32 initially, then upgrade to /31, /30, until /29
> >
> > Initial allocation (/32) : 7,132 * per address fee
> > Second allocation (/32, /31 in total) : (12,417-7,132) * per address fee
> > Third allocation (/31, /30 in total) : (21,619-12,417) * per address fee
> > Fourth allocation (/30, /29 in total) : (37,641-21,619) * per addless fee
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Fee total : 37,641 * per address fee
> >
> >
> > (case-2') /29 initial allocation
> >
> > Initial allocation (/29) : 37,641 * per address fee
> > = case-1'
> > Disadvantages:
> > None.
> >
> > Effect on APNIC: No effect on APNIC members.
> >
> > Effect on NIRs: NIRs(and indirectly, NIR members) are no longer required to
> > pay multiple per address fee for the same address range
>
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